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How does Tommen die?


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#1 Lord Ben

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:20 PM

I like the little bugger, seems like a sweet kid.  Assuming the prophecy is correct how does he end up dead?   Childhood illness?  Murder?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:22 PM

1. The Tyrells kill him in revenge when Margaery is executed.

2. UnGregor accidentally kills him (think of the stable boy when Gregor and Oberyn fought) during Cersei's trial.

3. Cersei herself kills him in a moment of supreme mental instability.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:26 PM

Either....
a) the Tyrells murder him if they make a coup for power following the aftermath of Kevan's assassination.
b ) One of his kittens mauls him to death. Oh, how I would laugh!
c) The Faith somehow decides he is not suitable and kills him.

#4 Lan the Clever

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

The Faith learns of his incestuous upbringing and has him killed.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

I think it will be Cersei. She had the headsman on retainer at the Battle of Blackwater. If Maegor's keep fell, she was not going to be taken alive.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:35 PM

Almost certainly murder. He's a king, and a member of a rapidly falling house. Candidates:

1) Jaime, out of disgust or to get revenge on Cersei.
2) Cersei, because it's the sort of idiotic thing she does on a regular basis.
3) Margaery Tyrell, to gain absolute power.

#7 Jamie Lannister

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:37 PM

Jaqen H'ghar kills him, when he and "No One" are conscripted by the FM (at the behest of the Iron Bank) to take down the false Baratheon king. Since Arya can't bring herself to do in the innocent boy. :(

Edited by Jamie Lannister, 14 April 2012 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

View PostKantor, on 14 April 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

Almost certainly murder. He's a king, and a member of a rapidly falling house. Candidates:

1) Jaime, out of disgust or to get revenge on Cersei.
2) Cersei, because it's the sort of idiotic thing she does on a regular basis.
3) Margaery Tyrell, to gain absolute power.

I don't think she would murder him herself, or would be comfortable with the knowledge that someone else was going to. Olenna on the other hand has at least had a hand in the assassination of another king, why not this one?

And the people saying Cersei might murder him... Why? All she does is to ensure her children are safe and powerful.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

I think it'll be Ser Robert Strong in a mishap, inciting more paranoia in Cersei.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:40 PM

View PostJamie Lannister, on 14 April 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Jaqen H'ghar kills him, when he and "No One" are conscripted by the FM (at the behest of the Iron Bank) to take down the false Baratheon king. Since Arya can't bring herself to do in the innocent boy. :(

I thought that was going to happen, especially when Jon remarked on the Iron Bank's slightly unforgiving practises.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostJamie Lannister, on 14 April 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Jaqen H'ghar kills him, when he and "No One" are conscripted by the FM (at the behest of the Iron Bank) to take down the false Baratheon king. Since Arya can't bring herself to do in the innocent boy. :(

Arya wouldn't be offered it as she knows Tommen. Jaqen is possible on the other hand.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostThe Last Direwolf, on 14 April 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

I don't think she would murder him herself, or would be comfortable with the knowledge that someone else was going to. Olenna on the other hand has at least had a hand in the assassination of another king, why not this one?

And the people saying Cersei might murder him... Why? All she does is to ensure her children are safe and powerful.

Quite possibly to prevent him from being captured by somebody else. Cersei is possessive like that. Much more satisfying would be if Tommen killed Cersei, of course. He is a valonquar, just not hers.

Margaery seems perfectly aware of the murder of Joffrey (she was drinking from the cup) and admittedly Tommen is far more pleasant and less psychotic, but it shows that she's not above murder.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:42 PM

Do you guys and girls remember the female cat that Joffrey cut open? Well her husband is back and since Joffrey is gone ....

Edited by Thunderfist, 14 April 2012 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostKantor, on 14 April 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Quite possibly to prevent him from being captured by somebody else. Cersei is possessive like that. Much more satisfying would be if Tommen killed Cersei, of course. He is a valonquar, just not hers.

I suppose I could see that happening, yeah.

Margaery seems perfectly aware of the murder of Joffrey (she was drinking from the cup) and admittedly Tommen is far more pleasant and less psychotic, but it shows that she's not above murder.

She's not above the murder of a psychotic, murderous monster, but I don't think she could make herself kill Tommen. As I said, Olenna is the Tyrell that I could see being behind any assassination attempt on Tommen.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostAwesome Oberyn Martell, on 14 April 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Arya wouldn't be offered it as she knows Tommen. Jaqen is possible on the other hand.

Do we know to what "limit" that rule is enforced? I mean, she "knows him" in that she's probably laid eyes on him before. I don't think they've really interacted.

Besides, she'd probably lie either way. I bet she'd jump at the chance to wreak vengeance on the Lannisters with her new FM abilities.

Edited by Jamie Lannister, 14 April 2012 - 06:48 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

i think tommen will be thrown down by the targs, not killed though. he will end up as lord of casterly rock. after all he is still tywins grandson and jamies son. incest laws in westeros apply to houses??? the Freys?? Boltons?? cant remember any other houses..

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:49 PM

View Postphoenix_rising, on 14 April 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

i think tommen will be thrown down by the targs, not killed though. he will end up as lord of casterly rock. after all he is still tywins grandson and jamies son. incest laws in westeros apply to houses??? the Freys?? Boltons?? cant remember any other houses..

The prophecy says all Cersei's children will die though.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

Maybe he'll get grayscale, I'd like to see more grayscale.

But seriously I think it will be Cersei

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

Poor kid.  At least I hope his kitties survive.

1)  Aegon appears to be winning so the Tyrells off Tommen (and maybe Myrcella) to save their asses, curry favor with Aegon and have an unmarried remarkably-still-intact daughter to peddle to Aegon.

2)  He and Myrcella are victims of symmetry: Aegon/Jon Connington/Arianne/some Sand Snake kill them in revenge for the deaths of Rhaenys and Aegon/anonymous baby. [And Cersei has to die for Elia.]

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

View Postspiritguides, on 14 April 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

But seriously I think it will be Cersei

Directly or indirectly?