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[WITCHKING]

Lan the Clever, on 14 April 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

The Faith learns of his incestuous upbringing and has him killed.

If this is the case then they will have to kill Danny when she returns....

[MikeDC]

RobertOfTheHouseBaratheon, on 17 April 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

But that still counts doesn't it, he still fled. I'm thinking King James II and the Jacobins in England. It doesn't matter if your fleeing death, once you flee you become exile and foreit your right. Though I think has it in that all the nobles recognised a change of dynasty to the Baratheon's. If Cersei stepped out and said they were Lannisters, that they were seizing the throne and all the nobles agreed then I'd accept them as rulers by conquest.

I do still think possessing Royal blood counts (as Robert did), you see in English history the effort made by new dynasties to emphasise there bloodlines (I'm thinking Tudors and King Cnut in particular). This became important in Europe after the Crisis of the third century in the Roman Empire where every general with an army decided to declare themselves emperor and you got a different emperor a year with all the civil wars.

I think Apple Martini's point about all the Nobles agreeing is on the mark. Without their agreement, probably nothing matters. The hook of royal blood or right of conquest is just a tool to getting Noble agreement.

To wit, why Robert Baratheon and not Jaime Lannister? Because nobody was gonna go for the latter, because it was perceived that he killed Aerys in an unhonorable fashion, so they wouldn't agree to have Jaime as king. On the other hand, they could agree on Robert because he and his sizable army would freaking kill anyone who wouldn't agree.

[lightbringer333]

tommen dies of heart attack. when margarey undress herself infront of tommen to seduce him.

[jarl the climber]

He gets a bad case of cat scratch fever.

[Nymphetamine]

He will be killed when King's Landing falls to Aegon.

[ServantOnIce]

Nymphetamine, on 17 April 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

He will be killed when King's Landing falls to Aegon.

Of all the silliness that folks talk about in this thread, this one was the most painful one so thefore knowing GRRM it is the most logical one.

Queen Dany will need to unseat Aegon if he is a pretender or join him if he is legitimate. The children suffer so much . ..  .

[accom]

there is a chance for poetic justice here. ser gregor killed the targarean girl. she had three kittens i if i remember correctly. maybe gregor kills tommen. that fits the writing style for poetic justice.

[WindOfWinter]

By the righteous sword of King Stannis, as he screams in terror begging for his life. I saw it in the flame.

[Master of Laws]

Indigestion

[Frey Pentos]

Is there any political reason why Varys wouldn't kill Tommen?  Opening up the possibility of Aegon marrying Myrcella and sitting on the iron throne without needing to fight a major war.

[Master of Laws]

Frey Pentos, on 08 July 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

Is there any political reason why Varys wouldn't kill Tommen?  Opening up the possibility of Aegon marrying Myrcella and sitting on the iron throne without needing to fight a major war.

Myrcella was promised to Trystane Martell wasn't she?

[Rohed]

spiritguides, on 14 April 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

Maybe he'll get grayscale, I'd like to see more grayscale.

But seriously I think it will be Cersei

I bet most if not all who rubbed tyroins head get it. An ironic twist since they did it for luck

Edited by Rohed, 08 July 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[LordofWinter]

Apple Martini, on 14 April 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

3. Cersei herself kills him in a moment of supreme mental instability.

Well if the HBO producers do know the ending, and have been dropping subtle spoilers than this may be an actual possibility.

[Liar]

Varys seems to be stepping up onto the "murder" stage. Perhaps he kills him himself so when/if Aegon arrives the Lannister don't have a strong claim to the throne (since Tommen is a "Baratheon"), the heir would be ............Stannis!!! nevermind about Varys. Uh.

Edited by Liar, 08 July 2012 - 11:57 PM.

[CoolGirlsMurderFriend]

Warrior, on 08 July 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Myrcella was promised to Trystane Martell wasn't she?

Yes, she's still in Dorne.  I don't think Doran would let any (further) harm come to her, even if her family were to fall out of power.


Maybe they'll send him to the wall where he'll become the next Varamyr sixskins with his mixed pack of shadowcats and domesticated castle felines.

[Northern-She-Wolf]

I think the Tyrells will try to kill him but in the moment he will be saved with only a knife wound and in Cersei's madness he may not get the proper treatment and die of infection. Or the Aegon will kill him, but I think he will die after his sister.

[PrinceHenryris]

The Bad Cat rips his throat out.

[Jon Mark Selmy]

Queen Cersei I, on 15 April 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

Apparently, bastards made by married men are morally very, very different than those made by women.

I think it's more about those made by Starks and those made by Lannisters. Cause you know, Ned was honorable and Cat was a caring mother; but Robert was abusive and distant (at best) and Cersei is an evil bitch.

[haenya]

jarl the climber, on 17 April 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

He gets a bad case of cat scratch fever.

   This.  From Boots.

Or maybe Cersei does go mad and try to kill him, but in that case I blame diretoxoplasmosis.

[Pellaeon]

He will surprise us all and survive, at the end this would be a great twist