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[Ghostwriter]

I just finished reading all five books, and at times there was too much going on at one time to keep track of every detail and name, especially with only doing one read through of the books. There was lots i didn't pick up on, and have been looking through this forum for the different theories/things I myself didn't pick up on. I was wondering if there is anywhere that has everything all together in one forum, as i tried looking with search and didn't find everything all together, and only found a few "what did you miss?" threads

for example, these are a few of the things i probably NEVER would have known if i didn't run across them here;

Able was actually Mance (dumb of me, i know)
Sandor is at the Quiet Isle
Robert Strong is probably Gregor
Qyburn was a necromancer (goes with above)
Coldhands might be Benjin
Melisandres ShadowBaby was because Stannis was hooking up with her
Jaquen is at the Citadel
Euron probably killed Balon in some way


and many others. some of these are rumors, some are theories, some are true, but still, i was wondering if others could post here more of these things, just so i know i am on the same page as everyone else, as i have this bad feeling that there are other things ill go "OOOHHHH" as soon as i see them here, but until then I will have no idea and be clueless. Again, i used the search function with only a little findings, and haven't seen a thread that has everything all together.

[NomadicDirewolf]

coldhands isnt benjen by the way, he said he'd been around the way he is for many years, and if he were benjen it would be less than two years

[atia-]

It was a long time ago, but I also missed the Jaqen thing on the first read, I think.  The dumbest thing was not realizing that Gendry was Robert's bastard in aCoK.  I finally figured that out, but it took awhile, when it was clearly told to the reader.  It's so easy to miss many things the first time around with information overload.  I was proud that I got the Frey Pie thing though.

[Ser Miguel]

Alleras from the Citadel might actually be Sarella Sand!!! I read it last nihgt on the wiki and it totally makes sense.
Theon might have been castrated by Ramsay

[Twookus Stark]

It hasn't been confirmed but i totally missed the whole Euron might have molested Aeron thing. Probably just too gross for me to get the hint,but thanks to whatever sicko first realized that.

[Ghostwriter]

is there any more? i feel like theres at least 50 of these.... can anyone write them all down or have a list handy?

[Teal'c]

So much more enjoyable to re-read now that you know what happens, sort of an art appreciation exercise. I respectfully suggest you take this approach because I want you to have this pleasure. Earnestly.

[eyeheartsansa]

There is so much rich foreshadowing, like:

Theon wanted to kill the puppies.
Symon Silvertongue's song hints at what happens to Shea - hands of gold.  It could also about Jaime/Cercei.

[Nausicaä]

Maester Marwyn is the guy who taught Mirri Maz Duur and was buddies with Qyburn
Maggy the Frog is Jeyne's great-grandmother

Do these count?

[Ned Stark's Ghost]

Nights King = ColdHands?

R+L=J

[Eyron I]

I had a vague suspection when reading but ahem, Frey pie?

[eyeheartsansa]

Jeyne tells Cat that mother was giving her some kind of concoction to take every day once she married Robb.  Jeyne says/thinks it's for fertility, but is it?

[The Merling Queen]

Wentwarth, on 17 April 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Maester Marwyn is the guy who taught Mirri Maz Duur and was buddies with Qyburn
Maggy the Frog is Jeyne's great-grandmother

Do these count?

Seriously?  I totally missed this...

[Ghostwriter]

eyeheartsansa, on 17 April 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Jeyne tells Cat that mother was giving her some kind of concoction to take every day once she married Robb.  Jeyne says/thinks it's for fertility, but is it?

hmmm... what are you saying???

[A Free Shadow]

Someone else pointed out on this forum that the reason Arya was so bad at actual needlework, is because she was made to do it with a right hand, while she is lefthanded (holds her sword with a left one).

[jarl the climber]

Eaeron I, on 17 April 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

I had a vague suspection when reading but ahem, Frey pie?

Has GRRM confirmed this in an interveiw, how do we know that Manderly just didn't feed them to the pigs that were put into the pie, Roose mentions that he brought some live pigs with him among his foodstuffs. I can deal with this better than the Freys being eaten directly.

[jarl the climber]

A Free Shadow, on 17 April 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Someone else pointed out on this forum that the reason Arya was so bad at actual needlework, is because she was made to do it with a right hand, while she is lefthanded (holds her sword with a left one).

What hand do they show her using on the show.

[eyeheartsansa]

it was moontea.

[dansnow]

Loras may not have attacked dragonstone
Bran cannibalism
R+L=J
tyrion could be Aerys II's son

[DaveSumm]

This would be a really cool and helpful thing to add to the wiki, possibly in each of the chapter entries in 'chapter summaries'. One HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL of an undertaking though. Plus, there'd be the question of how much information to put there: when the tale of the Harrenhal tourney is told to Bran by the Reeds, do you leave it at who all the  people are, or go on to explain its relevance to R+L=J? Do you add information about forthcoming events?

I'd say to keep it simpler, you'd have to aim it at people who are on their first read (even though most won't be), so the first chapter would contain pretty much nothing because there's really nothing you could have missed. So stuff like 'Roose killed Robb', 'Frey Pies', stuff that could conceivably be noticed on the first read as it relied only on past events.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who reads these 'what did you miss' threads every time they come around, picks up a few that weren't in the last thread and wishes they were collated somewhere. Plus, it'd be a good way of making sure you'd completely absorbed every subtlety there is once and for all.