[Book Spoilers] Book Petyr vs. TV Petyr
Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:58 AM
In this new GRRM interview that can be found here:
George names characters in the TV show that are different from the books: Shae (ugh), Osha (hooray), Renly (not sure the changes make any difference to me) and Petyr (slightly negative feelings).
The main difference I see is that he is less subtle than in the books. To a degree I think the show does this so the viewer can understand the character and his motivations a little bit better, so there is some added dialog to help accomplish this. Some of this additional dialog is given to Varys also, but he does not seem to have changed from the book. On the other hand by the end of ADWD I understand Petyr's thoughts and motivations a lot better than Varys'. Don't you just feel that there is more for Varys still to be revealed?
So back to Baylish. Here are the differences I have noticed:
1) More involved in day to day running of brothels.
2) Scene with Cersei about power. That kind of hurt to watch.
3) Less subtle with Tyrion revealing how much he wanted Harrenhal.
It makes me wonder if in the plot for the TV show there will be some changes that depend on his having less skill at the game.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:01 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:27 PM
Petyr is flamboyent in both, he's sneakier in the book to me. He keeps a hgh profile but is still able to conduct a ton of espionage and hatch plots that no one knows about.
I agree about the brothels. If he was supposed to be that much of a pimp, tyrion would have brought it up in his travails replacing him as the lord o coin.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 02:26 PM
that's about all there is to say
Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:16 PM
Edited by LorsEdrick, 17 April 2012 - 03:16 PM.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:48 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:08 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:24 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:31 PM
Perhaps, but his end goals in the show are still not revealed in the show either. It has all been added scenes to explain his motivations - but not what he plans to do. There has been no hints so far about what he plans to do with Sansa. (no more than then book, at least)
I still think they are doing most of his characterization to show viewers that he is not a Lannister stooge like Pycelle. Without this many would think that he talks a good game, but secretly works for Cersei.
Edited by Hyper, 17 April 2012 - 04:32 PM.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:31 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:35 PM
Someone brought this up in another thread. I re-watched ep 3 and his accent seemed all over the place - English, Irish, even some American twang in there.
Yeah, I don't know what's going on there.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:57 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:58 PM
Probably nothing since he didn't write it.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:05 PM
That doesn't really make any sense. He can have opinions on things that he didn't write himself.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:11 PM
Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:27 PM
My bigger worry is how they depict his self control and the guarding of his feelings. It seems to be an integral part of his character that he developed from his experiences growing up at Riverrun, which the show has already indicated through the afor mentioned sexposition. It is his self control, the guarding of his feelings and his incredible shrewedness that allow him to play the long game so well. Take one of these away, and he is not longer the really skillful player that is portrayed in the book. Maybe they plan to have him make a mistake which will explain some change to the plot that theyare going to make.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:53 PM
I am definitely looking forward to it, though I am nervous about it too. LF is definitely one of the most interesting characters in the series in my opinion, and I like to see his character expanded upon.
Also, I wonder if there will be a scene with him talking to Margaery one on one, that would be interesting too, especially considering the events in ASOS.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:42 PM
Yes, we saw a glimpse of a LF/Margery one on one scene in one of the S2 previews.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:43 PM
They're also giving him stupid plots. He's going to try to convince Catelyn to give up Jaime? I recall in the books he said something like "If you want to convince Catelyn to give up the kingslayer, waste someone else's time." But the show writers took the reversal and used a scheme Petyr mocked and assigned it to him. Ugh.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:59 PM
Littlefinger knew Renly quite well, and suggested to Ned to make Renly king if Joffrey should misbehave.