Aegnor, on 18 April 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:
Your post confuses me and makes me think I missed something. How would Loras be a Kingsguard kingslayer? I can't remember Garlan having any part in that that we know of. It was Olenna who actually did the deed (and likely Margerey played some part possibly).
Of the involvement he has so far in the series, his actions can easily be done by someone else. I do like his character, as he is one of the few people to recognize that Tyrion is the one that saved Kings Landing. But in a TV series that already has more characters than any other TV series in history, Garlan I am sure will not make it in (unless GRRM lets D&D know that there is some heretofore unrevealed reason why he must be included).
The cup that Joff drinks from is much too tall for Oleanna to have dropped poison into. While it isn't conclusive, the most likely suspect is Garlan. And while I also loved Garlan's conversation with Tyrion, you have to keep in mind that the Tyrells are playing Tyrion for a patsy, intending to frame him for Joff's murder. It makes the kind (and accurate) words that Garlan gives Tyrion have a bit different flavor. Loras could fill this role of poisoner (or they could have Oleanna do it and just have the cup be merely large rather than Stanley Cup Huge).
dansnow, on 18 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:
I honestly can't think of a scene in the book where he interacted with any of the major characters, maybe a tourney? Of course I'm only starting my first reread so I may have missed stuff. Either way he definitely is cut when characters like the Reeds, Aeron and Ramsay got cut.
Garlan appears several times, but has three important scenes.
One, he wears Renly's armor at the Battle of the Blackwater, and kills several noteworthy knights.
Two, he talks with Sansa just prior to marrying Tyrion about how she must be feeling. He says that Loras may be dreamy, but he wouldn't make a good husband and she should try and see the best in Tyrion.
Three, he talks with Tyrion just before Joff is poisoned, and then (likely) places the poison in the goblet to kill the King. Good work Garlan, we were all waiting for someone to kill him.
I agree that all three of those scenes could be done with someone else (Loras for #1 and #3, and probably Margery for #2), so there's a real chance that he gets cut. But I'm holding out hope that they'll introduce him in season three.
FiveByeSeven, on 18 April 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:
I didn't even remember who Garlan was until I read your post.
That's a shame, he's awesome.