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[ASOIAF best series ever]

Here is a topic for everything about Sothoryos.

Post anything or everything you know about the continent (other than it's South of Essos because everyone knows that).

Anything you know about any of the cities or geography is welcome.

[Stannis Iron Baratheon]

The bassalisk Isles have bassalisks

[Josephxoxo]

Black people live there.

[Prince of Dragonstone]

I'm assuming it's the equivalent of Africa

Moroqqo is originally from there.

That's pretty much the extent of our knowledge, no?

[ManyFacedOne]

The brindled men come from there.

[It is known.]

Yezzan caught a disease there I think.

[Northern Soul]

I know that I care about even less about Sothoryos than I do about Essos. (Well, Slaver's Bay and beyond really. The free cities are cool.)

If Dany leaves Mereen to rule over some exotic cesspool in Sothoryos for the duration of TWOW I can't guarantee I will any of her chapters ever again.

Apart from that I'm sure it's really quite lovely.

Edited by Northern Soul, 18 April 2012 - 07:59 PM.

[Teal'c]

It is known., on 18 April 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Yezzan caught a disease there I think.

Some liver disease because he is yellow. Maybe a fluke.

[Howling Mad]

IIRC Jorah Mormont says the Dothraki believe it has tall grass that will one day cover the world.

Edited by Howling4Reed, 18 April 2012 - 08:28 PM.

[Mr Motte]

There is an abandoned city called Yeen and another Zammettar there. There is also Naath and Ax Isle off the coast.

[Werthead]

What we know is that it's basically GRRM's equivalent of Africa. It's a large, mostly unexplored continent that extends a long way south from Essos, probably crossing the equator. It has deserts and jungles on it, with dangerous animals (including species of apes). It also seems to be a haven for diseases not known in the rest of the world.

The cities of the north coast - Zamettar and Yeen - appear to be in ruins. It's possible, if not likely, that the northern part of Sothoryros (the bit on the maps) was devastated by tidal waves and tsunamis generated by the Doom of Valyria, which wiped out those cities and any civilisations there.

It appears likely that Sothoryos extends north and east from that bit we see on the ASoS map and also forms the south coast of the Jade Sea (as hinted on the new HBO map). It may be that that part of Sothoryos, much further east than the devastated part, has inhabited cities or kingdoms on it. We hear about traders doing a great circle of the Jade Sea, trading at all the ports along the way, and it might not be worth it if the entire southern coast was uninhabited.

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IIRC Jorah Mormont says the Dothraki believe it has tall grass that will one day cover the world.

That's the Shadow Lands beyond Asshai. That's still on Essos, but beyond the Jade Sea.

[Fire Eater]

In ADwD, in one of the Dany chapters, it's stated that there are pygmies living there. Barristan the Bold's squire, Tumco Lho, whom he considers to be the best natural swordsman since Jaime Lannister, is from Basilisk Point on Sothoryos.

[HowardTheGryffin]

If it's anything like our Africa, it's impenetrable because of mangrove swamps along the coastlines, malaria, and any host of other things.  Unless Danaerys can get ahold of some quinine, she ain't goin' down there.

[Pomp & Happenstance]

I picture it being a more "primitive" continent in terms of civilization standards that's a combination of africa/south america. While it may have a descent population, I think it would be more tribal/village like than having sprawling cities or stone castles and the like. (Not saying that there aren't any, but definitely less than that of other areas we've 'witnessed')

I could see that it's wildlife and climate would make it hard to develop an extensive society, with heat, disease (from insects?), and such.

[Josephxoxo]

I'm pretty sure Yi Ti is on Sothoryos. In the first book it was stated that Yi Ti was South- East of Qarth. Plus the people wear monkey hats,  and there are probably monkeys in the jungle.

[Ordos]

I'm going to compile all the references to Sothoryos as I read the series. Will Daenerys go there or will there be characters from Westeros going there? I very much hope so. Or at least the Summer Isles because I love to read about fantasy in the tropics!

[Fire Eater]

We know there are Pleistocene Era creatures beyond the Wall such as mammoths, direwolves, short-faced bears, etc; I wonder if the in the jungles of Sothoryos, there are creatures from the Jurassic Period.

[the Prince of Thorns]

I wish there was some active cities at Sothoryos for example New Yeen, New Zamettar or something.

[Starfell]

Fire Eater, on 17 May 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

We know there are Pleistocene Era creatures beyond the Wall such as mammoths, direwolves, short-faced bears, etc; I wonder if the in the jungles of Sothoryos, there are creatures from the Jurassic Period.

You know I'd swear that there's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it mention of a feathered lizard with a big claw in AGoT but I can;t for the life of me remember the quote in enough detail to make it come up in searches, but it sounds suspiciously liek a velociraptor or deinonychus

[King Lobster]

Starfell, on 18 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

You know I'd swear that there's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it mention of a feathered lizard with a big claw in AGoT but I can;t for the life of me remember the quote in enough detail to make it come up in searches, but it sounds suspiciously liek a velociraptor or deinonychus

“Hear me. The ships of Braavos sail as far as the winds blow, to lands strange and wonderful, and when they return their captains fetch queer animals to the Sealord’s menagerie. Such animals as you have never seen, striped horses, great spotted things with necks as long as stilts, hairy mouse-pigs as big as cows, stinging manticores, tigers that carry their cubs in a pouch, terrible walking lizards with scythes for claws. Syrio Forel has seen these things.

Edited by King Lobster, 18 January 2013 - 05:51 PM.