[Book spoilers]Characters Benefiting From the Adaptation
Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:47 AM
This is about the flip side of that and discuss which characters you think come off better in the tv show, than in the books.
I am going to start with Samwell Tarly. The actor playing him was perfect and I feel that Sam on the show is much more likeable than Sam in the books. I still like Sam from the books, but I like him more on the show. He had some great lines on the show, "I always wanted to be a wizard." and his humor is a good counterbalance to Jon's seriousness. In season 2, I found his interaction with Gilly to be very sweet and endearing.
Another character I think benefits from the adaptation is Cersei. I know many people feel the opposite, but I much prefer Cersei on the show, than in the books. I felt after reading AFfC that Cersei was sort of cartoony evil and some of her actions were so ridiculous it makes it very hard for me to sympathize with her. I think the show had done a good job of showing some of her more human sides. I don't mind pure evil characters like Ramsay, The Mountain, the Bloody Mummers, or Qyburn but I don't think a major player or pov character like Cersei should be one of them. Yes, she's done some horrible things, but I would have liked more added dimensions to her. Her conversations on the show like the ones with Robert, Joffery, and some of the bits with Ned kind of displayed different facets of who she is.
What are your thoughts? Anyone else feel some characters come off better on the show?
Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:03 AM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:46 AM
EDIT: Ok, yes, there is one: Osha. Thats it.
Edited by The Non-Human, 25 April 2012 - 07:25 PM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:56 AM
I think this is a really ignorant approach. I know book purists can be stubborn but this is ridiculous. For instance we barely ever see Robb Stark in the novels but they've gone much deeper with him in the series. Richard Madden has taken the character to a whole new level.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:00 PM
Agree. Think about how angry you were when he was betrayed in the book!? It wasn't so much because of Robb as a character (for me) as it was the hope of the North being crushed. But in the series, especially with all the cheese they seem to be about to throw on his budding romance, it's clear they want to develop him more so they can really tear peoples' hearts out.
I think Tywin benefits from the series as well, not in small part due to the acting.
Actually, I have to say that Theon, for me, is a more rounded character in the adaptation. When I read the first book, even on repeated readings, Theon comes off as cocky and brash, and it seems like you can always see his greed and resentment shining through. It's not a huge surprise that he betrays Robb. But in the adaptation it seems that he genuinely loves Robb and if not for his trip to Pyke he may have served faithfully until death.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:04 PM
Having said that, I'll throw Bronn in the mix. He's has some great lines in the show, and I think the emphasis on his non-chalance has worked well for him.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:11 PM
Showing him more =/ Portraying him better.
No, Richard Madden has not. He is a fine Robb, but he has not done anything all that noteworthy. For me at least. Not really for book purism reasons or whatever. I do enjoy the show a whole lot.
The really ignorant thing is to assume we are all going to agree on this.
Edited by The Non-Human, 25 April 2012 - 01:12 PM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:25 PM
However, series Theon is quite a different prospect. Alfie Allen has managed to gain my sympathy by bringing to the screen Theon's sense of not belonging anywhere far better than the books did, IMHO. I also loathed Asha in the books and Balon, but again, the scenes have intrigued me so far and I think they've been played well. Needless to say, I don't agree with everyone's thoughts on the actress who plays Yara/Asha. To me she's more likeable than in the books. But each to his own.
I think everyone else is more or less how I pictured them. I'm re-reading Swords at the moment, and am finding it hard not to hear the actors' voices now. But I must say in fairness, that I watched Series 1 before reading any of the books, so I've not had the years of living with these characters that many of the members on this forum have had. That MUST colour my judgment to a degree.
Edited by Drogon's Personal Trainer, 25 April 2012 - 01:26 PM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:33 PM
i will also add Theon. Alfie Allen has helped me sympathise with the character
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:56 PM
And his scene with Jamie was one of my favourites of the added scenes.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:57 PM
2. Renly, believe me or not. In the books he was always a spontaneous, outgoing man with a fake air of knightly chivalry. Gethin Antony properly portrayed Renly's less masculine side better than the books did; his love for decorations and clothes and his extravagance and what not.
3. Theon. In the TV series, Theon's small scenes had a lot of character development in them and showed us truly how he felt about not belonging anywhere. In the books we had to wait till ADWD and the later part of ACOK to see this.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:58 PM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 02:12 PM
Osha. GRRM even commented that Natalia Tena (I think thats her name, correct me if I'm wrong) adds a whole other dimension to her.
I will say that I liked Robert more because of Mark Addy's performance.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:11 PM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:11 PM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:24 PM
It very much depends. They can very well butcher a character to the extreme of making it clearly worse. Not saying it has happened, but its a fairly real possibility.