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[Carne]

Ran, on 25 April 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

Err, damn you autocorrect? Was using the iPad for that post!

hotter = shorter

prisoners = episodes

Jeebus.

Haha, I was thinking "What does that metaphor mean?"

[iheartseverus]

Carne, on 25 April 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

Haha, I was thinking "What does that metaphor mean?"

heh, heh, and I was wondering about 'the longest prisoners in the back half...'  Hmmm, who're the longest prisoners?  Back half of what, exactly?  Too funny...

[Davos55]

I am pumped for Qorin Halfhand and The Fist of the First Men! Arya scenes are going to be great as usual. I am curious to see what they are going to do with Dany's storyline up until the House of the Undying.

They better not cut out Weasel soup!! (later in the season)

Edited by Davos55, 25 April 2012 - 04:22 PM.

[PatrickStormborn]

Davos55, on 25 April 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I am pumped for Qorin Halfhand and The Fist of the First Men! Arya scenes are going to be great as usual. I am curious to see what they are going to do with Dany's storyline up until the House of the Undying.

They better not cut out Weasel soup!! (later in the season)

From what I've gathered, I think Dany's storyline will be something like this:

Spoiler

Episode #5 - showing off the dragons, meeting Quaithe/Pyat Pree, interacting with Xaro.
Episode #6 - they might show the scene that was only mentioned in the books, where she bribes the merchants and is rejected.
Episode #7 - the Undying.
Episode #10 - there's a picture of her wearing a plain dress with her hair braided, which I assume is in this episode, so I imagine this is her departure from Qarth.

[Morrigan]

Ran, on 25 April 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

Err, damn you autocorrect? Was using the iPad for that post!

hotter = shorter

prisoners = episodes

Jeebus.

HAHAHA that totally made my day. You should submit that to damnyouautocorrect.com, lol.

[Maginor]

Strictly speaking, the Dontos plot doesn't have to be introduced properly before the third season.

[7V3N]

Ran, on 25 April 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

HBO doesn't have commercials, as such. And the season is only about 10 minutes shorter compared to last season. It's just that the longest episodes are in the back half.

What about all the montage-style commercials for all of their shows? And they usually have commercials for something coming soon. I saw the GoT and Veep trailers between Eastbound & Down and Life's Too Short.

[KnightsOfDany]

So does Renly's death the clifhanger ending?

[Khal-a-bunga]

HBO is most definitely not cutting the episodes short to allow for "commercials". With HBO, for the most part, they aren't interested in syndication. It lessens their brand, and for a premium cable company that's not a good thing. The Wire, The Sopranos, and Sex & the City are the only three modern shows they've produced exclusively that were put into syndication. The first two were edited so poorly as to be incomprehensible and Sex & the City didn't really need to be edited down as much as they did so it wasn't really a problem.

Your friend who plays Dontos probably got his scenes cut because they weren't fitting in with everything else going on. No need to make a conspiracy out of it. And let's be real; it's not like D&D would ever tell one of the minor actors about their editing decisions, let alone justify them by blaming HBO for making them cut the episodes down to fit for commercials. If Game of Thrones were ever syndicated on non-premium cable, they wouldn't need to cut the episodes down because whole sequences would need to be cut out for content.

Anyway, here are the run times for the rest of the episodes of the season. They must be planning on having the finale be an hour and a half gig on regular cable, which is the only possible way to explain the run time of over 60 minutes.

Ep 05: 57 min.
Ep 06: 54 min.
Ep 07: 56 min.
Ep 08: 57 min.
Ep 09: 57 min.
Ep 10: 64 min.

Edited by Khal-a-bunga, 25 April 2012 - 06:02 PM.

[Aegnor]

Khal-a-bunga, on 25 April 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

HBO is most definitely not cutting the episodes short to allow for "commercials". With HBO, for the most part, they aren't interested in syndication. It lessens their brand, and for a premium cable company that's not a good thing. The Wire, The Sopranos, and Sex & the City are the only three modern shows they've produced exclusively that were put into syndication. The first two were edited so poorly as to be incomprehensible and Sex & the City didn't really need to be edited down as much as they did so it wasn't really a problem.

Your friend who plays Dontos probably got his scenes cut because they weren't fitting in with everything else going on. No need to make a conspiracy out of it. And let's be real; it's not like D&D would ever tell one of the minor actors about their editing decisions, let alone justify them by blaming HBO for making them cut the episodes down to fit for commercials. If Game of Thrones were ever syndicated on non-premium cable, they wouldn't need to cut the episodes down because whole sequences would need to be cut out for content.

Anyway, here are the run times for the rest of the episodes of the season. They must be planning on having the finale be an hour and a half gig on regular cable, which is the only possible way to explain the run time of over 60 minutes.

Ep 05: 57 min.
Ep 06: 54 min.
Ep 07: 56 min.
Ep 08: 57 min.
Ep 09: 57 min.
Ep 10: 64 min.

Wow, where'd you find those run times? Don't suppose you have episode 13? I couldn't find that episode's run time. Anyway, the average run time for this season looks to be around a minute shorter than last season. Not a big deal.

[Carne]

Episode 13 is 53 minutes long.

Khal-a-bunga, your times are a bit off. According to HBO.com, episode 15 is 55 min and episode 18 is 54.

Edited by Carne, 25 April 2012 - 07:12 PM.

[boojam]

32 seconds again, HBO got something against , say, 1 min. for the particular previews.
(I know they do longer stuff, still, wiz wiz!)
Anyway.

Well finally Jaqen H'ghar , full camera angle, Tom Wlaschiha looks great. (I remember him talking about the trouble they had the wig looking ridiculous until they subdued it more and more, looks great to me.)
That strange accent is a nice added touch.
(Tho ,as in the novel, the R'hllor Faceless Men connection, just does not seem to compute, to me.)

[Rookie_Rider]

The Nerdly Knight, on 25 April 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Enough for Drogon and her to destroy the House of the Undying. Man, I can't wait to see that either. That whole trip for her is going to make one spectacularly trippy and spooky scene.

The dragons are one of those elements that  you do not want the TV audience to get desensitive on.  So you would not want them to be on screen too often.   Having them on screen should be a treat that people look forward to.  It's still early in the story.

Dany's big moment is the House of the Undying.  Which is probably the second biggest event in ACOK, next to the battle for the Blackwater.  As long as the show gets that right, as long as the show is able to communicate the gravity of that event, I will be happy.  She's a big-moment type of character in the books anyway.  Lots of the most important moments in the story involve her, such as the birth of the dragons in GoT.  It's not necessary to have her on screen too much.  Leave the screen filling to the secondary characters like Sansa, Bran, Stannis, etc.  Dany and Jon should be saved for the big moments.

Edited by Rookie_Rider, 25 April 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[boojam]

Aegnor, on 25 April 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

The line in question is directly lifted from the book...

"The Red God has his due, sweet girl, and only death may pay for life. This girl took three that were his. This girl must give three in their places. Speak the names, and a man will do the rest." - aCoK pg 421

That exactly right. But in the light of what we find out about the Faceless Men later, it makes not a lick of sense.
I think George got to riffing and never noticed.

[boojam]

Lady Lilac, on 25 April 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

Why's Jaquen talking in first person at the beginning?

Opps he did say 'I', gack, Benioff and Weiss wrote that episode , someone send them a message that could still be dubbed in correctly.
In the novel it is:
"The Red God has his due, sweet girl, and only death may pay for life. This girl took three that were his. This girl must give three in their places. Speak the name , and a man will do the rest."

[boojam]

Got Mance in Your Pants?, on 25 April 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

Please show us the dragons this episode.

Yeah what's the deal, surely all that extra 15% didn't go for Blackwater?
D&D stringing us along?

[The Nerdly Knight]

Rookie_Rider, on 25 April 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

The dragons are one of those elements that  you do not want the TV audience to get desensitive on.  So you would not want them to be on screen too often.   Having them on screen should be a treat that people look forward to.  It's still early in the story.

Dany's big moment is the House of the Undying.  Which is probably the second biggest event in ACOK, next to the battle for the Blackwater.  As long as the show gets that right, as long as the show is able to communicate the gravity of that event, I will be happy.  She's a big-moment type of character in the books anyway.  Lots of the most important moments in the story involve her, such as the birth of the dragons in GoT.  It's not necessary to have her on screen too much.  Leave the screen filling to the secondary characters like Sansa, Bran, Stannis, etc.  Dany and Jon should be saved for the big moments.

Oh I agree 100% here. I'm not one to clamor for dragons nor direwolves every episode, getting to see them is what makes them so special. That said the prospect of the scene does excite me. As you stated it is one of the most important scenes in the book next to Blackwater and I would argue Jon's turn from the Nights Watch.

So I can only hope scenes like that are done well and their parts of the story honored with great screen writing and acting. Again its about to get really crazy for the rest of the season and I'm so excited for it!

[CrypticWeirwood]

boojam, on 25 April 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Yeah what's the deal, surely all that extra 15% didn't go for Blackwater?

It quite possibly did. Remember they spent an entire month shooting that single episode.

Curious that they have such a long denouement in Episode Ten’s “Valar Morghulis”.

[iheartseverus]

boojam, on 25 April 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

Opps he did say 'I', gack, Benioff and Weiss wrote that episode , someone send them a message that could still be dubbed in correctly.
In the novel it is:

He also said 'you' in talking to Ayra. I?  You?  Ja'qen, my love,   Wake up!  A man speaks in third-person.  That is why this girl loves a man, that is why 26 bajillion ASOIF fans love ... a man.   Because a man speaks in third-person.  If a man loses that, a man becomes just another throw-away, only with goofy hair.   This girl is distraught that a man is being forced to speak like everybody else.  HBO?  D&D?  What are you thinking?   A girl grieves.  It is known.

[iheartseverus]

CrypticWeirwood, on 25 April 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

It quite possibly did. Remember they spent an entire month shooting that single episode.

I saw an interview with someone involved in 'Blackwater' (duh, can't remember who it was...) who said they filmed from 5pm one evening until something like 6am the next morning, so Blackwater is going to be all night-time stuff.  I'm predicting lotsa fireworks, explosions, but all in the dark.  Lotsa screaming, people being thrown overboard, but overall confusion as to specific details.  Alas, personally, I tend to lose interest in those kinds of things.  I mean, you can leave the room, go get a glass of lemonade, look out the window and see what the weather's doing, all the while listening to the screaming and shouts going on in Blackwater, because even sitting right in front of it, you can't see what's actually going on.  Not being a downer here, but just hearing that the whole thing was a night shoot... well, been there, done that.  Hope it turns out better than I fear.