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Neil Gaiman - What are your opinions?


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#41 Ser Scot A Ellison

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:28 AM

Sciborg,

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:36 AM

View Postsciborg2, on 29 April 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Kalbear raises issues I had with the work. The characterizations are a bit dodgy. Morpheus gets off the hook with a "I'm Soreeeee" a lot of the time.

That said, watching the plot coalesce, Gaiman's prose, and the efforts of the supporting cast makes the series worth a read.

Where did he ever get away with saying I am sorry?

And you expect something that is more a force of nature than a human we can understand to have an easy time getting this human concept?

#43 Sci-2

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:53 AM

Whoah guys, we should make separate spoiler thread.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:33 AM

View Postsciborg2, on 29 April 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Kalbear raises issues I had with the work. The characterizations are a bit dodgy. Morpheus gets off the hook with a "I'm Soreeeee" a lot of the time.

That said, watching the plot coalesce, Gaiman's prose, and the efforts of the supporting cast makes the series worth a read.

But he doesn't get let "off the hook".

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#45 Sci-2

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:41 AM

I'm talking more about the forgiveness he's given by characters that seems unreal and done to wrap up the plot arcs.

Like I said, in terms of craft it is one of the best things to come out of DC and it essentially, alongside Watchmen, raised the expectation of comics as art form...at least for the American audience.

But Gaiman's young writer desire for conclusive arcs even at the emotional level works against it at times.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

View Postsciborg2, on 29 April 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

at least for the American audience.

Sci.. really?  Is there any other type of audience that matters?

#47 Sci-2

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

heh, i just remember when i asked for the greatest living comic writers and got schooled how much comics work has been produced outside of the US.

so i figured i'd cover my ass with that caveat.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:06 PM

As stated:

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Edited by Kalbear, 29 April 2012 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

View PostKalbear, on 29 April 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

As stated:

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I was never very enthralled by sandman, maybe I set my expectations too high, hearing how it's such genius. Don't kill me for this but I thought at the time that it didn't measure up to half the comics I had read (from Belgium, Japan, US, France, Korea, whatever), but this one thing made sense for me:
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:43 PM

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:08 PM

I think he does suffer at the hands of Nada (as he rightfully should)...

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:55 PM

Uh.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 03:45 PM

What's struck me most about Neil Gaiman in recent years is his lack of output in books.

I'm not sure what he, if anythingm he is working on, presumably has been working on for some time. I saw some listing for a book he is supposed to do on China, where he's been travelling the last few years, and I heard that there may be sequels to AG for HBO, but nothing solid.

His output has been limited to a short story here and there since Graveyard Book back in 2009.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 03:54 PM

View PostCalibandar, on 01 May 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

What's struck me most about Neil Gaiman in recent years is his lack of output in books.

I'm not sure what he, if anythingm he is working on, presumably has been working on for some time. I saw some listing for a book he is supposed to do on China, where he's been travelling the last few years, and I heard that there may be sequels to AG for HBO, but nothing solid.

His output has been limited to a short story here and there since Graveyard Book back in 2009.

Apparently he has been busy doing other things (???) but has really gotten back down to writing the last couple of months--he talks about it a good deal in his blog.

Also, I know for a fact he interviewed Stephen King (my favorite writer) a few weeks ago, and his full interview with the King is on his blog as well.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 04:37 PM

He got married right? To the lead singer of Dresden Dolls?

#57 alguien

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:13 PM

Yeah, he married Amanda Palmer over a year ago, I think.  I know he's been working on writing episodes of American Gods for HBO and at least one book, which is why he hasn't been blogging as much.  He also just recently did an interview with Stephen King.

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#58 Sci-2

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

@alguien - it's not about being disturbed, it's about critiquing characterization.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:00 PM

Fair enough. I guess I find some of critiques misguided, though interesting.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:03 PM

View Postalguien, on 02 May 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Fair enough. I guess I find some of critiques misguided, though interesting.

I will say this: 24 Hours was one of the scariest things I've ever read.