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[Greywolf2375]

Not sure if it is a nitpick or just a question...so is Bronn really the commander of the city watch or is he still Tyrions lackeyman?  It was commented on when Tyrion said he was - 'why isn't Bronn in the armor?" but that could have just been timing.  It's been plenty of time for him to find a change of clothes since then though.

I thought this was the speed up of his transition to a non-disreputable type, but looks like that might have been wrong considering in the last episode he told the commander of the city watch to kill a KG.

[CrypticWeirwood]

Bronn should have a gold cloak.

[Dontos the Slim]

Tadco26, on 30 April 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Xaro is not gay, and they didn't bring up how if they were married the bride and groom could ask for one gift of one another which could not be refused, with Xaro's being one of her dragons.

I would imagine this will come up in her storyline on the show. Maybe next week. Otherwise, his marriage proposal would be awfully tempting.

[House Martell]

Dontos the Slim, on 30 April 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

I would imagine this will come up in her storyline on the show. Maybe next week. Otherwise, his marriage proposal would be awfully tempting.

Seems like Jorah has already talked her out of it though, without the threat of losing a dragon. And someone already mentioned how he's all "pro-Westeros only" for fighting so I wonder how they're gunna bring the Unsullied into the picture.

[House Martell]

David Selig, on 30 April 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

What's with Cat telling Brienne "My son's camp is a day away". How would she know? As we saw in the previous episode, Robb went somewhere to attack the Lannisters. And where is her escort? It makes no sense that she travelled all the way to the Stormlands alone at a time of war.

Bran giving orders to Rodrick about how to employ the troops is strange. He's only 11 in the series at this point, right? Rodrick or Luwyn should be the one in charge, not an 11 old boy.

This has been the biggest logistical problem with leaving out Riverrun, like you said Cat is gunna find him and how is Cleos supposed to return with the Queens terms? Also without Edmure throwing them back what's going to stop Tywin from marching on Robb?

2 of my bigger problems with the book was Cat not returning to her young boys (in the show she's expressed her desire twice now, which seems more realistic and makes her more sympathetic IMHO), and Roddrik running off with all the men and leaving Winterfell under-guarded, at least now it was 11 yr boy making that call...

[CrypticWeirwood]

House Martell, on 30 April 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

Seems like Jorah has already talked her out of it though, without the threat of losing a dragon. And someone already mentioned how he's all "pro-Westeros only" for fighting so I wonder how they're gunna bring the Unsullied into the picture.

Ser Barristan didn’t want slave soldiers, either.

[House Martell]

CrypticWeirwood, on 30 April 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Ser Barristan didn’t want slave soldiers, either.

True, I've been wondering how they're going to handle "Arstan" since we can see him, i'll be disappointed if it's just some cheesy fake beard.

[MaJose]

Loras not killing the kingsguards. Loras is supposed to be a great knight and the show has done a pretty poor job of showing that. So far the only thing show-Loras has done is whine and get pissy. This was they're chance to show a different side of him. Killing the guards would show that he can be a badass and how truly affected he was by Renly's death. To me that was one of the biggest clues of their relationship cause killing your sworn brothers is kinda of big deal. I guess they had him blame Stannis right away so he may have a reason to join the Lannisters against Stannis in the Blackwater, but I'll definitely miss the scene were he accuses Brienne of Renly's murder.

I really love the scene between Arya and Tywin, but I'm afraid it might look really stupid when Arya doesn't choose Tywin to get killed after that threat.

[CrypticWeirwood]

If Joffrey hasn’t reached the age of majority yet, then he cannot overrule his Regent.  The Regent rules in loco regis.  Joffrey shouldn’t be able to tell Cersei what to do if she’s really his Regent.

On the other hand, if Joffrey has reached the age of majority, then Cersei shouldn’t be Queen Regent anymore, merely Queen Dowager, a position which confers no actual power of rulership. In that case, Joffrey is now a ruling king and has no Regent.

And for all she wishes it were otherwise, Cersei is not, nor has ever been nor shall ever be, the Queen Regnant.  That’s why Tyrion corrected Lancel calling Cersei “Queen” with her proper title of “Queen Regent”. She was only ever a Queen Consort, and the death of her King doesn’t change that.  When the council named her Regent, it did change things, but only until Joffrey’s age of majority.

Notice how in Storm, Tywin pays no attention to Joffrey’s tantrums. Tywin even less lets the Mad Kinglet have his own puerile way than Tyrion does.   Cersei is a weak mother and a worse Regent.

They’re acting in the show like Joffrey holds the real power of rulership in the show. That’s nonsensical in a regency system.

Edited by CrypticWeirwood, 30 April 2012 - 12:53 PM.

[CrypticWeirwood]

House Martell, on 30 April 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

True, I've been wondering how they're going to handle "Arstan" since we can see him, i'll be disappointed if it's just some cheesy fake beard.

I’m worried we shan’t see him till next season.

[CrypticWeirwood]

There are no more crows in the show, only ravens, including three-eyed ones. That makes the whole three-eyed crow business of the erstwhile Lord Commander Brynden — a former crow — just so much nonsense.

What’s next, a murder of ravens instead of an unkindness of ravens?  A group of crows is a murder; a group a ravens, an unkindness.

Folks who don’t know a raven from a crow, sheesh!

Edited by CrypticWeirwood, 30 April 2012 - 01:10 PM.

[House Martell]

CrypticWeirwood, on 30 April 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

I’m worried we shan’t see him till next season.

Jorah is supposed to go looking for a ship and we meet Belwas and Arstan on the docks so...do we know if a Belwas was cast? he's one character that could pretty easily disappear though...

[CrypticWeirwood]

House Martell, on 30 April 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Jorah is supposed to go looking for a ship and we meet Belwas and Arstan on the docks so...do we know if a Belwas was cast? he's one character that could pretty easily disappear though...

There’s been no announcement that he’s been cast.

He’s a pretty wide fellow to easily disappear.

[Lannister_Lion]

I have been really entertained up until season 2 episode 5 - stealing the character development of Arya for me is utterly criminal and the Brienne, Cat and Renly opening scene with Loras muted reaction was too big a deviation that I had to look at the direction they are seeming to go with this (imo - they are planning to ditch it earlier than anticipated or at least hand over the writing to the less talented - probably to make financial profit).

I hope my suspicions are unfounded as I would be gutted if they turn this into the same puerile guff that is always seen on screen.

The reason these books are sooo good is that everyone else is too scared to tell it the way it is (or was).

[Greywolf2375]

CrypticWeirwood, on 30 April 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

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There’s been no announcement that he’s been cast.

He’s a pretty wide fellow to easily disappear.

Not so not so!  I mean, look at Varys...he can disguise himself well.  Actually...we've never seen Varys and Belwas in the same place at the same time, have we?  Hmm...Varys was "cut" in the front, just like Belwas' scars.  And Varys is trying to help Dany, so by helping Arstan get to Dany, he helps his own desires.  Indisputable....Belwas = Varys.

[sbjackdaw]

Of course a lot of people have already mentioned the most egregious changes -- Tickler dying too early, Arya mouthing off to Tywin, no Reeds or Ramsay on the horizon -- but was anyone else seriously bothered by the 17th-century-lookin' Sea Bitch? The Ironmen sail longships, not merchant galleons! Vikings, not Spanish armada sailors!

N.B.: Here's the Sea Bitch from the show. And here's a longship (remember how often the Ironmen's ships are referred to as longships - ALWAYS). I really don't know what they're thinking.

Edited by sbjackdaw, 30 April 2012 - 01:34 PM.

[House Martell]

Lannister_Lion, on 30 April 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Loras muted reaction was too big a deviation that I had to look at the direction they are seeming to go with this

people are upset with this but we also don't need Loras to go raving mad to know his love for Renly, the show has pretty completely demonstrated that already. Whats more important is that the Tyrells are going to oppose Stannis and make common cause with the Lannisters, which the LF, Loras, Margery scene shows well. I think having LF there is a great deviation from the book, worked really well.

[Lannister_Lion]

No Reeds, no Ramsey, Tywin for Bolton. Arya missing vital parts of character development, her killing the Tickler is massive, but also missing her obvious skill with needle in the previous episode.

There are more, but these are a BIG concern for me.

I liked the Jorah and Dany scene, buts thats small consolation.

[Goddan]

House Martell, on 30 April 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

people are upset with this but we also don't need Loras to go raving mad to know his love for Renly, the show has pretty completely demonstrated that already. Whats more important is that the Tyrells are going to oppose Stannis and make common cause with the Lannisters, which the LF, Loras, Margery scene shows well. I think having LF there is a great deviation from the book, worked really well.

I disagree, I don't realy feel that there has been much love from Loras side in the series, more manipulation, there was some when he was sulking by Renly's corpse, but that could just be the mourning of a good friend. If we were to have seen the Havok he wreaked, I feel that would have been a more genuine response for the loss of the love of your life. But that might just be me..

[Maria Underfoot]

I was really frustrated that the whole wildfire idea is Joffrey's! The kid is supposed to have been an utter idiot, and Tyrion the capable leader! The idea ought to have been his, he has need of some credit... Even Tywin acknowledges the smartness of the move... Why steal all his glory away? I'm annoyed at such small changes, because they seem entirely pointless