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[polishgenius]

...is starting to look really good. Even though I'm not that big a fan of the character and really, an origin story? Again? Andrew Garfield just looks like an excellent choice, they look to have got Spidey's quippery spot on, the conspiracy angle is interesting (and I'm not familiar with that part of the comic's history, I don't know how closely it tallies) but mostly at the moment I reckon the whole look of it is great. Despite being 'grittier' and certainly darker it's got a great sense of style to it, and the visuals just scream comic book in a way almost no other comic-book movie has managed. Plus there seems to be a proper heft to the characters in motion and the action as a whole that doesn't always happen when there's loads of CGI.

I see no topic that has them in (apologies if there's an obvious one somewhere) so I'll post all the trailers just because:

'teaser' (but really just a) trailer  - this didn't do too much for me tbf

First proper trailer - but this looked better

Most recent trailer - and this looks ace.

[Josephxoxo]

Sorry, but you know something here is pathetic when they're basically making a remake of the 2002 film. Only 10 years? Really they could have waited longer.

[polishgenius]

Josephxoxo, on 04 May 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

Sorry, but you know something here is pathetic when they're basically making a remake of the 2002 film. Only 10 years? Really they could have waited longer.

Like I said in the title, it's a rights thing; they couldn't leave it longer because then Marvel would have got the character back. Which is definitely creatively selfish and pathetic on that level but is financially a totally sound decision. Not one I especially like - I was totally sceptical initially - but nonetheless they could have totally half-arsed it and slammed out a cheapo one but they seem to be actually trying to do something.

I don't mind too much if they bring something new to it anyway; Warner Brothers will almost certainly start remaking Batman almost as soon as Nolan is out the door and if they do that right (and use it to lead into a JLA film) I'll totally be behind that. Especially if they get David Fincher to direct. >_>

[denstorebog]

Josephxoxo, on 04 May 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

Sorry, but you know something here is pathetic when they're basically making a remake of the 2002 film. Only 10 years? Really they could have waited longer.

Agreed. This isn't working. Superhero films are a dime a dozen now, and this movie has no angle. The Batman franchise has the "dark, semi-realistic" angle, the Avengers movie had the "combine franchises, focus on group dynamics" angle. This looks like polished, superficial cookie cutter fare.

[Tongue Stuck to Wall]

Honestly, this whole bullshit with "rebooting" franchises boils down to one thing: can the over-produced circle-jerk involving studio, producer, director and actor sucker audiences for $150 million on the shit movie's opening weekend so that it can recoup a modicum of its expenses and dupe subsequent audiences into surrendering their hard-earned shekels?  No one except helpless fanboys and -girls really gives a shit about who plays who or what fucking bad guy shows up.  The trailers are dissected ad nauseum only for studios to retract the most promising scenes, or else bury them in an avalanche of shit in an actual movie based upon a screenplay drafted by a bunch of emo television scriptwriters who have no connection or interest in the original story.  Pass.

[Kaldaur]

We saw the origin story. I watched Toby McGuire grow muscles and hang from his ceiling. No thanks.

I want original content, for Christ's sake. No more remakes, no more prequels. Give me something new.

[wolverine]

I want good movies.  If they are good I will watch them.  If they suck, I don't care if they were original or copied they still suck.

Would the Transformers franchise be considered original from a movie making standpoint?  Cause it totally blows.

[polishgenius]

denstorebog, on 04 May 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

Agreed. This isn't working. Superhero films are a dime a dozen now, and this movie has no angle. The Batman franchise has the "dark, semi-realistic" angle, the Avengers movie had the "combine franchises, focus on group dynamics" angle. This looks like polished, superficial cookie cutter fare.

It doesn't need an angle, it just needs to be good. But even if it did; like I said, this is about the only main-company superhero franchise at the moment that actually looks like it came from a comic book. Ang Lee's Hulk did and Kick-Ass managed it but of the rest, this is by far the most visually distinctive.

I'm not sure why just being polished stylistic fare has become a bad thing nowadays. If it's really well made who cares?

[Greywolf2375]

wolverine, on 04 May 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

I want good movies.  If they are good I will watch them.  If they suck, I don't care if they were original or copied they still suck.

Would the Transformers franchise be considered original from a movie making standpoint?  Cause it totally blows.

Exactly - especially for the Transformers, if they were to remake them better next year, I wouldn't complain as long as they improved the quality.

[Morpheus]

There a rumors that Sony is not too happy with the finished product, they are planning a sequel but have canned the writers, and it looks like they may not keep the director. There are even fears it could severely underperform at the box office, The Avengers and Dark Knight Rises having all the hype. These are just rumors, but I am inclined to believe there is some truth to them just because it was made simply to retain rights.

Edited by Morpheus, 04 May 2012 - 08:36 AM.

[RebeccaSigyn]

I was not happy with the idea of a reboot but after seeing the preview last night before the Avengers came on, I actually think Spiderman might turn out alright or at-least be better then I originally expected it to be.

[polishgenius]

Morpheus, on 04 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

These are just rumors, but I am inclined to believe there is some truth to them just because it was made simply to retain rights.

Possibly, but do bear in mind that what studio directors think is good and what is actually good don't always correlate. They hired an unusual choice of director for an action franchise and maybe might he's done something untypical that's given them cold feet, but I'm going to wait till it's actually out before I cast judgements, especially since I like the look so much.

Studio suits thought Jack Sparrow was going to ruin Pirates.

[Rhom]

I dunno.  It looks better than average to me.  I'll see it and likely enjoy it.

[drawkcabi]

polishgenius, on 04 May 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Possibly, but do bear in mind that what studio directors think is good and what is actually good don't always correlate. They hired an unusual choice of director for an action franchise and maybe might he's done something untypical that's given them cold feet, but I'm going to wait till it's actually out before I cast judgements, especially since I like the look so much.

Studio suits thought Jack Sparrow was going to ruin Pirates.

I'll give the movie a chance, but only when it comes out on DVD. But I'm really not expecting much from it.

I also have worries about The Avengers being all style and no substance with a "We've got 4 of the biggest Marvel super heroes in one movie, why worry about a script?" mentaity.

I have the highest expectations for Dark Knight Rises but even with this movie there's the "third film in a trilogy" jinx rattling around in the back of my mind making me worry a little.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

polishgenius, on 04 May 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

But even if it did; like I said, this is about the only main-company superhero franchise at the moment that actually looks like it came from a comic book. Ang Lee's Hulk did and Kick-Ass managed it but of the rest, this is by far the most visually distinctive.

Not really seeing that in the trailers. Looks like more of the same, really. Sin City was the only movie I can remember that looked distinctively like the comic.

[awesome possum]

Kaldaur, on 04 May 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

We saw the origin story. I watched Toby McGuire grow muscles and hang from his ceiling. No thanks.

I want original content, for Christ's sake. No more remakes, no more prequels. Give me something new.

This.  Why reboot when you could have just recasted and continued?  Was having Parker create the web-shooters really important enough to restart everything from scratch?

Doesn't matter if the trailers look fun, I'm not spending any money on this crap.  I hope enough other people do so as well to send a clear message to the studio.... although if it underperforms, the studio will likely just take it as meaning Andrew Garfield can't carry a movie instead of people boycotting because it's a stupid idea.

Edited by awesome possum, 04 May 2012 - 09:21 AM.

[HyacinthGirl]

The thing is, I think the new Spiderman movie will actually turn out better than the last trilogy (largely due to the lack of Tobey Maguire...urgh) but I don't think anyone really cares about it, at least, not in the way they care about The Avengers or TDKR. It's way too soon.

[RebeccaSigyn]

HyacinthGirl, on 04 May 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

The thing is, I think the new Spiderman movie will actually turn out better than the last trilogy (largely due to the lack of Tobey Maguire...urgh) but I don't think anyone really cares about it, at least, not in the way they care about The Avengers or TDKR. It's way too soon.

LMBO!!! I can't stand TM as Spiderman. I don't know anything about this other guy but he did a pretty good job in the trailer I saw.

[Caligula_K2]

My favourite aspect of this movie is that its tagline is "The Untold Story." Lolz. I have no interest in seeing it.

[Josephxoxo]

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I want good movies. If they are good I will watch them. If they suck, I don't care if they were original or copied they still suck.

Would the Transformers franchise be considered original from a movie making standpoint? Cause it totally blows.

I hope this one sucks. And I hope it blows at the box office. There should be some unwritten law not to allow remakes until a 20 year period is over between the last remake.