Shae and Tywin?
Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:51 PM
Posted 22 July 2012 - 05:22 PM
Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:02 PM
My thought now is that Tywin was not only screwing Shae but set her up from the beginning to keep any eye on Tyrion. Its all about who you can trust. He cant trust Cersei and Joffrey or any of the council. Thats pretty much why he sent Tyrion to be hand anyway. However, somebody has to watch Tyrion.
I thought it was a bit of a noble gesture that Tywin came around on Tyrion and realized he was smart and sent him off to be hand. But Tywin is an a-hole. If Tyrion is to be his eyes and mouth amongst the Kings Landing folk, then the only one who can keep an eye on him is someone outside of that group. Tywin knows Tyrions one big weekness. Hopeing someone will love him and not care about his defects. My guess is he had been screwing Shae in the battle camp and decided she was a good enough actress to send to Tyrion.
Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:49 AM
Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:40 AM
Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:26 PM
I know to seems like "duh, she was naked, in his bed!!!". But I just wanted to clarify it.
Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:24 PM
Both are quite nice in a way as depending on your view you can then either have Tywin as a self-righteous hypocrite or Varys as a vicious schemer.
I really like the way you put it, totally agree. How about another theory into the cauldron... It would seem that Cersei had the most influence on Shae. It was in Cersei's desire to get rid of Tyrion which is why Shae was such a wonderful resource, but what about her desire to get rid of her unsatisfied, controling, and lastly by today's and Cersei's standards -- sexist. Could Shae have been used as a set up by Cersei?
Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:19 AM
Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:47 PM
Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:12 AM
Actually, how i see it is, Varys believes that Aegon (fake/real) is the best hope for the Realm and he truly believes they've groomed him up to be the king the Realm needs. Maybe he isnt pro-Targ as people think,but still pro realm.
Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:14 AM
Yes he does. I highly recommend that you do a re-reading!
Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:50 AM
The way I remember it, she was betrothed to him and he was in love and she was happy and then suddenly they told him she was just a whore and took her away.... but she wasn't.... And what exactly did he do to make Tywin/Jaime do that to him???
Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:59 AM
Posted 14 August 2012 - 03:11 PM
Oh. Wow.... Poor Tyrion....
Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:25 AM
Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:30 AM
Posted 21 August 2012 - 11:57 AM
There is a strong Theory that Oberyn the Red Viper poisoned Tywin. There are many clues pointing to this
Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:08 PM
Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:24 PM