Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:58 PM
Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:55 PM
without a doubt, gregorstein has someone else's head on his shoulders
cersei lannister tells qyburn to remove gregor's head, he does it with beetles that eat the flesh away from the skull, they send the head to dorne,
i use to think it was a dwarf's skull they sent, when men were trying to pass it off as tyrion's to claim a westerosi lordship, but during the re-read i saw that in a certain cersei chapter that she talks to qyburn first about the beetles eating the skull, and then immediately after that is presented the dwarf's head, i had originally thought in my first read through that these events take place in separate chapters, this is not the case, and it is the best indication that gregor lost his head to qyburn's beetles,
now for a bit of speculation:
did we ever learn what happened to oberyn martell's body after he was killed? did his bones get sent back to dorne? i'd like to think that the best possible explanation is that oberyn's head is now on gregor's body, seeing as how they both lost in the trial by battle, and oberyn's corpse would be the freshest one in the red keep, i've heard it said on the forums that it could possibly be king robert's head or something, but i don't believe that,
however, even though i think oberyn is the best possible candidate for gregorstein's head, i'm left with this puzzling thought: didn't gregor smash oberyn's skull during the trial by battle? isn't that how he died? if so, would his broken skull make an appropriate replacement for gregor's head?
i am convinced gregor lost his head, but who's head has replaced it? let the theories continue!
Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:11 AM
I do not agree with the concept that Sandor to rush forward and defeat his now undead brother, even IF he is alive,
Keep in mind RS is wearing thick armor that requires strength that surpasses even what Gregor had, and the only option left which is stabbing at vital areas through the openings of the armor won't do much. However it could betray the real nature of Cersei's champion when the people notice that it is not bleeding.
I fail to see how Sandor could possibly win, unless he employs wildfire and let the flames turn that plating into a white-hot forge, reducing the abomination into ashes but then again he is deadly scared of flames.
Edited by TheCurio, 11 December 2012 - 10:09 AM.
Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:34 AM
Posted 13 December 2012 - 10:09 PM
My theory: Qyburn has made his own "other" or "white walker" thats why he can control it, and he knew how to do it from going in the restricted section of the library at the citadel (lol) now, I know that the others and white walkers are associated with the cold....but maybe he has come up with some way to circumvent that...? I dunno , I just don't think there's a "real" person under there, and I don't think it's an UnCat like Zombie either.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:28 AM
Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:39 AM
Hmmm....sounds a lot like how he was before though, just a big dumb lump "gregor, go to the maeger's holdfast and kill the tar kids"..."well i didn't tell him to do it that way and i forgot about elia" ...yup gregor doesn't think to much as gregor or as gregorstein, just a big mean cruel lump with too much muscle and not enough brain
Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:49 AM
Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:13 AM
Anyway, my only contribution to this thread is I'm convinced Qyburn has been thinking about this for a long time - since he was with the Bloody Mummers.
When he was 'saving' Jaime's hand, he originally wanted to take the whole arm, didn't he? So, I think Qyburn has been trying to make a Frankenstein-esque monster for a long time, and that was part of the reason he is now an ex-maester. The best of the best to make up the unbeatable soldier.
Which is why Robert snow is actually the Valanquor....with Jamies hand wrapped around Cersi's neck
Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:19 AM
Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:26 PM
And I'm quite sure Cersei was born first.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:24 PM
second into the world, that they make a key note of.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:25 PM
Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:45 AM
There has to be a head sown on those shoulders if Ser Robert Strong is wearing a helm that covers his whole head, it's only now a matter of Cersei's trial by battles, which is the point in time i think it will finally be revealed just who this monster is made of
i've said it before, the more and more i think about it the less likely i think it's Oberyn Martell's seeing how the Mountain crushed his skull, but you never know. When we finally get to that trial by battle chapter, maybe its revealed under that helm the Red Viper's head all sown back together crazy Qyburn style, i mean, if he can necromance Gregor's body even though he was dying of concentrated manticore venom, it isnt that much more of a stretch for him to necromance a crushed Oberyn's skull, but you never know with Martin.....
Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:26 PM
Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:46 PM
at one point cersei lannister tells qyburn that when gregor dies qyburn should bring her his head. In a subsequent chapter cersei asked qyburn if he accomplished "that little task" that she asked him to do, and he remarks that the beetles took a longer time than he expected to eat away the flesh from the skull because it was so large, i think it's safe to say that this is the mountain's head, am i right or wrong? someone either back me up or disprove me with some quotes or something, i'm invested in uncovering the truth about the fate of the head of the Mountain that Rides....
Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:59 PM
I think the idea of him having Jamie's swordhand sewn on is ridiculous. Where did that come from? It wouldn't be as big as Gregor's other hand. It'd look like he had a baby hand on one arm.
Also if Bob Strong does have a head the 'thick black blood' could be the tar they use to preserve certain severed heads.
Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:01 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:55 PM
I actually think I'm going to miss Boros Blount
This will open the way for Cersei to regain control of the Iron Throne, which will ultimately lead to the collapse of the Baratheon regime.