Worst Parents in ASoIaF
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:23 PM
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:24 PM
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:25 PM
Sansa did what any other teenage girl would have done - thought about herself and her 'true love'. Arya rejected what her father taught her because she had to survive while she was alone. It's not proven that the paste Bran has been eating contains any part of Jojen, and in any case, he didn't eat him on purpose. And we know nothing but rumours about Skagos, so only the gods know what Rickon has been doing.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:25 PM
Well we can't all be rats thriving in the sewer.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:25 PM
Edited by David Selig, 06 May 2012 - 07:30 PM.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:26 PM
Well, I think we all know he didn't. . .
But that's besides the point - he presented him having supposedly fathered this child as a disgraceful thing. Robb knew his father felt he shouldn't sleep with random girls, even if he had been brought up to mistakenly believe his father had broken that moral himself.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:30 PM
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:31 PM
(Honestly, I'm just REALLY, REALLY bored. Trying to kill an hour till the new episode comes on)
Edited by Grumpy Midget, 06 May 2012 - 07:33 PM.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:41 PM
Come on, these weren't modern day sissies making their kids strap on helmets to go to the bathroom.
In the book I believe Robb hesitates before asking to indicate he knows and is afraid of what he'll hear. I'm sure all the kids knew and didn't care except for Sansa who slightly mirrored Cat with lines like “He gets jealous because he’s a bastard.” I'm pretty sure it also says how Sansa always referred to Jon as her half brother as soon as she learned he was a bastard and what it meant.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:43 PM
1. Cersai/Robert - talk about negligent. Robert never cared or took much time to be a parent. Cersai was and still is obsessed with herself and the childhood prophecy. Also when she does try to be a parent she fails miserable with all the advice she gives her kids.
2. Walder Frey - He seems to look at his children like basic pawns in a game (which to be fair they are) and shows no real emotion for any of them.
3. Tywin - I think his character is awesome. That being said he always treated Tyrion horribly only due to him being an imp. Turned a blind eye on the Jamie/Cersai relationship. I assume Tywin is smart enough to know what was going on there for awhile and he never attempted to stop it (as far as we know).
Honorable mention: Cat - not the worst parent, but she seemed pretty obsessed with hanging out with Robb for no real reason, he obviously no longer needed his mom around; I never quite understood why she almost never showed any desire to go home with her two boys except on occasion. She wanted to be with her dying father, so she gets a little bit of a pass, which is why shes not in my Top3 worst parents. Clearly she wasn't the worst but far from the best as well. Poor Rickon.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:55 PM
I think it's easily Robert/Cersei (and Jaime). They completely mishandled the raising of their children. They neglected two, and the other was Joffery so enough said. And then of course right after Joff dies Cersei and Jaime have sex in front of his corpse.
Other honorable mentions are Lysa Arryn, Randyl Tarly, and Mad Aerys.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:02 PM
Lysa Tully - Breastfeeding Robert until he's married, so he can switch straight from one teat to another? How horrid.
Cersei Lannister - Your favorite child ended up a horrible sociopath, and you ignore/ hate the other two.
Tywin Lannister - Specifically with Tyrion. You deserved your manner death, sir.
The Clegane parents who let Gregor get away with his bullshit.
Randyll Tarly - Sam has to fit your expectations?
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:17 PM
There was a lot wrong with Sam when he first turned up at the Wall, but he was still a compassionate, kind, intelligent young boy and yet his father threatened to kill him simply because he didn't fit his expectations.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:33 PM
oh- I'd taken that for a joke, as in "I have to really reach for issues I take with Ned." Or maybe it wasn't.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:45 PM
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:57 PM
Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:13 AM
Some people just might argue that abandoning your child is a sufficient criteria for bad parenthood. The very same people might also argue that the act of abandoning a child does not free you from the responsibility of the upbringing.
Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:21 AM
I wouldn't go that far. Now we're talking with our modern values, which can't really be applied to situations like this. Roose raped Ramsays' mother, he's not going to give a shit that that rape resulted in a pregnancy. I don't disagree with your arguments, I'm just saying that applying them to Roose makes him a bad parent by our standards, not necessarily the standards of Westeros. Many high lords had bastards scattered all over the country, it seems to be a norm.
Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:40 AM
Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:41 AM
1. Tywin Lannister. No competition here.
2. Randyll Tarly- would have killed Samwell because he's fat and a bad fighter.
3. The Clegane's - all in all, Sandor turned up surprisingly well compared to Gregor, but still they're both pretty fucked up.
4. Lysa Tully- gross.
I won't include Robert, because his idea of fatherhood probably included only conceiving the child and then provide for his life (which he did with Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen), and Cersei, because the 2 younger kids turned up quite well.
Ned did his best... it's not really his fault if he was a bit thick.
Catelyn is appalling only towards Rickon... but then again, nobody ever really concerns about Rickon (even Sansa doesn't mention him when she's missing her family) so maybe it's GRRM who doesn't really remember about him when he writes about the Starks.