Robin Hill, on 09 May 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:
And you know this how? Please don't point to some bozo's blog and cite his anti-government rant as proof.
Did you see that linked Washington Post article on page 2 of the thread, the one Gryphon quoted a district judge saying “I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that there would have been no crime here except the government instigated it, planned it and brought it to fruition,” (dunno if she is a bozo with anti-government rants, though).
Also from that article:
“It almost seems like the government is creating a theatrical event that produces more fear in the community,” said Michael German, a senior policy counsel at the American Civil Liberties Union and a former FBI agent who worked undercover.
I don't think it's too far a jump to think that maybe, just maybe, the way the US is conducting the fight against terrorism isn't so hot. And maybe the results of some of these victories against the "terrorists" don't really justify continued erosion of civil liberties and killing of more people.
Being critical of the government and media coverage of policies that involve incarceration, murder, and surveillance of both US citizens and non-citizens isn't a bad thing. You know, supposed open society and all.
Raids -- the airtravel thing is continued low grade bitching on my end, not a plea for sympathy. I count myself very fortunate that the women in my life aren't currently subject to the same day to day degradations you experience. That would drive me to some pretty deep levels of hatred.