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[Batman]

jlk7e, on 13 May 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

God, all the choices for master of whispers are awful: Varys's loyalty is incredibly dubious; Melisandre is a religious fanatic; Qyburn is one of the most despicable characters in the books.  I think I'd have to go with Mel, reluctantly.

Is there any option for master of whispers that isnt terrible in someway?

[I'll pay the iron price]

Hand - Tyrion Lannister
Coin - Littlefinger (devious man but bloody good at his job)
Law - Kevan Lannister
Spy - Varys
Ship - Davos Seaworth
Maester - Luwin
City Watch - Blackfish (city is safe with him in charge)
Advisor - Catelyn Stark
Kingsguard - Barristan Selmy

[jarl the climber]

Hand- Stannis
Coin- Garth the Gross
Law- Randyll Tarly
Whisperers- Davos
Ships- Manderly
Grand Maester- Is choosen by the Citadel
City Watch- The Blackfish
General Advisor- Littlefinger
Kingsguard-  Selmy

[Thendel]

Hand - Tyrion Lannister
Coin - Wyman Manderly
Laws - Robb Stark
Whispers - Varys (with the caveat that he is the most suited for the part, but he is also too dangerous to hold it)
Ships - Stannis Baratheon
Grand Maester - Marwyn
City Watch Commander - Addam Marbrand (why would I want Brynden Tully in a position he is plainly overqualified for, when I could use him elsewhere?)
Advisor - Davos Seaworth
Lord Commander - Tough one: Barristan inspires people, but present-Jaime has a better understanding of politics, thus harder to manipulate.

[irishtemper]

Hand - Tyrion Lannister
Coin - Wyman Manderly
Law - Stannis (couldn't pick one of the three lol)
Spys - Varys
Ships - Davos Seaworth (or Gerion Lannister, if still alive he must be great with ships)
Grand Maester - Marwyn
City Watch commander - Brynden Tully with Jacelyn Bywater retaining his initial position as captain of a gate
General adviser - Arianne Martell
Kingsguard commander - Barristan Selmy

[Roose Bolton's Pet Leech]

Batman, on 13 May 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Is there any option for master of whispers that isnt terrible in someway?

If we're broadening options, I'd go for Olenna Tyrell as Master of Whispers.

[Batman]

Roose Bolton, on 14 May 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

If we're broadening options, I'd go for Olenna Tyrell as Master of Whispers.

No way anyone names an ancient woman to a council. Westeros society looks down on women, except Dorne. Anyone else?

[Howling Mad]

Odd that everyone thinks Barristan Selmy makes the best commander of the KG when he has lost two kings under his watch already.

[Batman]

Thendel, on 13 May 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Hand - Tyrion Lannister
Coin - Wyman Manderly
Laws - Robb Stark
Whispers - Varys (with the caveat that he is the most suited for the part, but he is also too dangerous to hold it)
Ships - Stannis Baratheon
Grand Maester - Marwyn
City Watch Commander - Addam Marbrand (why would I want Brynden Tully in a position he is plainly overqualified for, when I could use him elsewhere?)
Advisor - Davos Seaworth
Lord Commander - Tough one: Barristan inspires people, but present-Jaime has a better understanding of politics, thus harder to manipulate.

Where would Blackfish be used?

[Batman]

This has really devolved into people just choosing who they want and ignoring the three choices.

[Roose Bolton's Pet Leech]

Batman, on 14 May 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

No way anyone names an ancient woman to a council. Westeros society looks down on women, except Dorne. Anyone else?

The mother of Mace Tyrell is more socially respectable than a eunuch (this is Master of Whisperers we're talking, not Lord Commander of the Kingsguard).

[Grip]

Hand - Stannis Baratheon

Coin - Baelor Hightower

Law - Kevan Lannister

Spys - Melisandre

Ships - Davos Seaworth

Grand Maester - Cressen

City Watch commander - Jacelyn Bywater

General adviser - Mathis Rowan

Kingsguard commander - Balon Swann

[Batman]

Roose Bolton, on 14 May 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

The mother of Mace Tyrell is more socially respectable than a eunuch (this is Master of Whisperers we're talking, not Lord Commander of the Kingsguard).

She is more respectable than the eunuch, but thats like saying Jaime is more honorable than Littlefinger, doesnt mean much. I just think all that people would see is a frail old woman, the same way all the people see when they look at Jaime is the kingslayer.

[Saer]

Hand - Tyrion Smart, funny, will work for the good of the realm. And in the final resort, easy to get the people to blame if everything goes wrong.

Coin - Wyman Manderly I don't actually know if he'd be any good, but it's Manderly. If we need money, he can sell pies. XD

Law - Robb Stark, Edmure Tully, Kevan Lannister

Spys - Melisandre Varys' idea of working towards peace is to kill someone who has a chance of achieving it, and Qyburn is just repugnant. Melisandre has been trying to prevent the end of the world, and she can give us reports of the future, which is better than anyone else.

Ships - Asha Greyjoy

Grand Maester - Marwyn Man of action.

City Watch commander - Brynden Tully He's the Blackfish, right? I don't remember ever reading the other two names.

General adviser - Davos Seaworth He's honest, intelligent, awesome, and will put the people first.

Kingsguard commander - Barristan Selmy will be reinstated, after a quick explanation of the whole wildfire thing.

[Grip]

Saer, on 14 May 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

City Watch commander - Brynden Tully He's the Blackfish, right? I don't remember ever reading the other two names.

Addam Marbrand is one of Tywin's chief bannermen, often acting as his chief of scouts. Probably the Wests answer to the Blackfish, if young and more "dashing". At the siege of Riverrun he advised on leading a small party of men past the Tully guards and opening the gates from within, though this was denied. Seems like a good man, though IIRC he didnt like acting as temporary Commander of the Gold Cloaks. Jacelyn Bywater was Commander under Tyrion, died when his own men rioted during the battle of the Blackwater. Jacelyn was my choice, he is a hard and capable man. He is experienced aswell. Lost his hand at Pyke, I think..

Edited by Grip, 14 May 2012 - 06:41 AM.

[Batman]

Toccs, on 13 May 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

Kingsguard Commander - Barristan Selmy and I would instruct him to begin grooming Jaime Lannister to take over when Selmy feels it's time.

How would Barristan like that? Knowing that once he is dead the Kingslayer will be lord commander. He would probably drop dead from shame the moment he was told.

[Lord Orys Baratheon]

Hand - Tywin: long track record of success

Coin - Wyman: running that harbor probably involve the movement of a lot of money

Law - Kevan: I don't like any of the candidates for this but, he could handle it.

Spys - Qyburn: he's always came off like a decent guy to me

Ships - Stannis: If you beat the Iron fleet at anytime, this job is yours

Grand Maester - Marwyn: probably the most knowledgable

CW commander - Bynden: easy choice, so much battle experience, loyal

General Adviser - Davos: brings the "little" people perspective

KG commander - Barristen: obvious choice

[Toccs]

Batman, on 11 June 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

How would Barristan like that? Knowing that once he is dead the Kingslayer will be lord commander. He would probably drop dead from shame the moment he was told.

Honestly I don't give a shit what Barristan woudl think of it.  He's the Lord Commander of my Kingsguard he is sworn to follow my orders.  If I say to start grooming Jaime Lannister as a replacement, he can either do it or I will have him thrown in the black cells.
Also I would make it clear that Jaime will be his successor as Lord Commander, so at least this way Barristan can try and impart some of his experience and so effect what sort of Lord Commander Jaime will become.

Edited by Toccs, 12 June 2012 - 02:44 AM.

[Silmarien]

Hand - Stannis Baratheon

Coin - Wyman Manderly

Law - Edmure Tully

Spys - Varys

Ships - Asha Greyjoy (Davos is a very close second, but there should be more women on the council)

Grand Maester - Marwyn

City Watch commander - Brynden Tully

General adviser - Davos Seaworth

Kingsguard commander - Barristan Selmy

[The Drunkard]

Hand - Tyrion Lannister. He got a decent amount of work done as Hand, and managed to tap into the more deplorable or 'seedy' sides of being a Hand, something I believe Stannis and Tywin would be loathe to do. He's also fairly loyal to the people of KL, and wouldn't chuck a Varys and screw everything up for everyone.

Coin - Wyman Manderly. I know nothing about the other two, but this guy seems alright.

Law - Robb Stark.

Spys - Qyburn. I don't trust Mel or Varys to not screw me over, yet Qyburn seems to be loyal enough if you give him a few toys to experiment on.

Ships - Stannis Baratheon. Because Stannis, is why.

Grand Maester - Luwin. Loyal, smart, good at his job, offers decent council. Fits the bill.

City Watch commander - Brynden Tully. He'd get the place sorted, and likely would keep his men in line, as much as you can.

General adviser - Davos Seaworth. He served Stannis well.

Kingsguard commander - Balon Swann. I wouldn't want Jaime on my KG because he is too open to killing people for no reason. He may be changing, but I don't trust him yet. Barristan Selmy is loyal to the Targs now, and I'm not a Targ, so not him. That leaves Balon.