[Book Spoilers] Cersei Lannister Changes.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 01:51 AM
An example would be the torture of the prostitute scene a few eps back. We just saw Joff ordering Sansa stripped and beaten at court but then we had another scene where he does the same right after.
What do you guys think? What will Joff look like by the end of this?
Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:47 PM
Cersei's changes are more pronounced than Joffrey's in my opinion. She's much more likable and easy to sympathize with in the series.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:56 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:57 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:06 PM
Personally, I want to like Cersei because I love her wardrobe. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:08 PM
I don't think Cersei has been changed very much. If anything they're trying to add a little sympathy but I think that's just about it. I've always looked at it as if her and Jaime were on a similar morality scale, but that scale tips during Storm of Swords and one's morality plummets while the other rises.
That's really interesting.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:12 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:17 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:18 PM
On the whole I can't fault the changes, there have been a few changes, some subtle - some more pronounced. They definitely make her more...human? Well, more likeable is probably more accurate. I personally felt Robert came across as less likeable (slightly) than in the books which helped her in season 1. Her attitude to Joffrey in the show seems like the type of thing you'd expect - she loves him but clearly knows there's something very wrong. I mean we still get enough moments like last week where she's fairly dislikeable, so it's fine.
Not bad changes, Lena Headey is doing a terrific job.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:56 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:56 PM
Uh. Wrong. Cersei is bad, if not worse, than Joffrey. And yes, that is 100% true. This is the woman that gave people to Qyburn. Never once in her POVs did she show any kind of remorse for killing someone....not only that, but she didn't even think twice about it. And as far as the "price of her sins....." she DOES NOT CARE. She doesn't fret over her past sins or worry that Joffrey is an abomination like a Targaryen can be because he's a product of her incest. Give me a break. Cersei spends her time plotting her next sin, not repenting old ones. And most of all, she doesn't talk to Tyrion about this kind of stuff. Are you kidding? Discussing her and Jaime with him? Sure, he knows, but she would never. She never talked about it to anyone. And she loved Joffrey's fierce and brutal personality. She was always bitching in her head about how Tommen wasn't as tough and as much of a "lion" as Joffrey was.
I'm guessing that when Joffrey dies, they will make Cersei into more of a villain, especially since we get to see into her sick little mind in AFFC. But the writers probably don't want a middle-aged woman stealing the villain kid's thunder at the moment.
There is a chance that the whole "price for our sins" bit though was just her game-playing Tyrion. They have recently been in some terrible fights with the whole "the debt will be paid" bit from Tyrion, so maybe it's all a scheme. *shrug* But they have definitely toned her evilness down for the time being. You never know. For awhile I thought TV Tywin was an absolute idiot to not realize that something was up with Arya, and he knew it all along. Or at least for awhile. So this is mostly speculation based on what I've seen so far of Cersei, but knowing this show...it can all change next Sunday.
Edited by hk47, 14 May 2012 - 11:59 PM.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:13 AM
There is a chance that the whole "price for our sins" bit though was just her game-playing Tyrion. They have recently been in some terrible fights with the whole "the debt will be paid" bit from Tyrion, so maybe it's all a scheme. *shrug*
Almost certainly is. I can't stress enough how important the blackwater is for Tyrions character. He has spent the whole season preparing for the defense of the city all the while ticking off Cersei. I really hope we get to see Tyrion sally forth to meet the enemy during the battle. He needs to be pseudo-assassinated by Cersei's henchman.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:28 AM
With t.v. you need to over dramatize some things. Cersei being a bit more sympathetic makes her losing it after Joff dies more believable. People know she is capable of pulling off some pretty bad stuff, but once she's set off the deep end, she is worse than Joff. That's what, I think, we will see in the end...if we get there.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:31 AM
Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:32 AM
Posted 15 May 2012 - 02:43 AM
i can't deny that i noticed the writers of the show amping up the sympathy for certain female characters. *cough* Cat *cough* Cersei*cough*. sorry i'm a smoker.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:53 AM
I also really like the Cersei always has a drink in hand...kinda foreshadows her crazy drunk self in AFFC.
Nice catch! Didn't see that.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:00 AM
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