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is Hodor a Targaryen?


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#21 camradio

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:15 AM

Hodor will be king, Patchface his hand and Hot pie will be the Master of Coin and Whispers

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:35 AM

Everyone seems to be a Targ these days...so why not him too?


Yes!!!

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:12 AM

I actually read a very interesting post in general that suggested Hodor would end up accidently killing Bran, evidence by the nordic connection of Hodr (or something like that), a demi god hero who accidentally killed the God of summer or some such. I kind of realized I butchered what was once an elegant post, so I'll go find it and copy paste it into this thread /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />


This is fascinating and more than a little mind-boggling for me. Martin definitely incorporates symbolism into ASoIaF, and I've always wondered why Bran named his direwolf Summer, unless it's because he will, true to his dream-conversation with the three-eyed crow, save the realm from the horrors coming out of the north (i.e., turn Winter into Summer).

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:16 AM

Hodor joke = stale as bread left North of the Wall for 5 hours.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 08:29 AM

I doubt Hodor has any Targaryen blood, but I'm willing to bet significant coin that he is descended from Ser Duncan the Tall, of the Dunk & Egg tales. Ser Duncan was 1 inch short of 7 feet, as measured by Aemon Targaryen. At the end of the 3rd story, "The Mystery Knight", Dunk and Egg are planning to travel to Winterfell next. In the 4th novella, I think we will find that Dunk and a She-Wolf of Stark blood develop a very close relationship, 90 years in the past.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 04:23 AM

I doubt Hodor has any Targaryen blood, but I'm willing to bet significant coin that he is descended from Ser Duncan the Tall, of the Dunk & Egg tales. Ser Duncan was 1 inch short of 7 feet, as measured by Aemon Targaryen. At the end of the 3rd story, "The Mystery Knight", Dunk and Egg are planning to travel to Winterfell next. In the 4th novella, I think we will find that Dunk and a She-Wolf of Stark blood develop a very close relationship, 90 years in the past.

I agree! In addition to this, GRRM said that one of the characters of ASoIaF descends from Dunk, and Bran sees him kissing a young girl in his first tree vision in Dance. I believe the girl is Old Nan, not a She-Wolf, but I guess we'll find out as soon as the novella is out.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:57 AM

Please help me, i think i am going mad! Is Hodor a Targaryen? I am sure i have read it somewhere in one of the 1st 3 books, but searching back through some of Bran's chapters i could only find out he is really called Walder & is the great-grandson of Old Nan. Does anybody know of his background?


I have heard it said that Dunk and Old nan might have once had a thing for each other. Maybe Hodor is Dunk's great-grandson.... they are both huge! That would be very awesome is if he is!

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

One does not simply warg into Hodor

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 08:00 AM

I agree! In addition to this, GRRM said that one of the characters of ASoIaF descends from Dunk, and Bran sees him kissing a young girl in his first tree vision in Dance. I believe the girl is Old Nan, not a She-Wolf, but I guess we'll find out as soon as the novella is out.

I thought he saw brandon and lady dustin?

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 04:08 PM

I agree with vonstorm. Hodor was just a way to make Bran's story possible. Warging him is pretty cool, but we've all seen freak the mighty. The big dumb guy paired up with the weak smart guy is a trope as old as tales.

Edit: once again, my not being quite finished with the novellas has left me with less insight than I thought I had. Perhaps, with Dunk being physically similar to Hodor, and warging being as common as catshit in Winterfell, perhaps Old Nan was a skinchanger....

Edited by reverendsteveiii, 21 September 2012 - 04:10 PM.


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Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:33 AM

I consider him a descendant of the first men, with some giant blood in him. Not a Targ.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 12:46 AM

Maybe Old Nan IS a Stark... but she's been around for so damn long that nobody remembers how she's a Stark to begin with?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:26 AM

Might be Hodor's a descendant of Duncan the Tall instead of Brienne? There was a tall man kissing a young woman with brown hair in Bran's weirwood vision.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:48 PM

Hodor is the son of Hodor. His brother was Hodor who went to Hodor in the Year of the Long Hodor and rescued the Hodor from Hodor. It is very clear from holding a dog-eared copy of FoC to my head and reciting "Hodor, Hodor, Hodor" that Hodor is supposed to be the much prophesied Bringer of Hodor. GRRM just has to get him to hook up with Melissandre.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:32 AM

Hot Pie Targaryen!!

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

In Storm when they are at Tumbledown Tower and Bran suggests they go to Last Hearth or Lord Manderley's lands he notes that only Hodor likes the idea. Hodor could possibly be related to the Umbers(he's freaking huge like the GreatJon). And Hodor sounds a lot like Hothor. Maybe he was told Hothor was his forebear(father or grandfather), and can only frame to pronounce it Hodor

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 07:30 AM

I really like the Hodor as a descendant of Ser Duncan the Tall theory. Hope it's works out that way but I'm already sure Brienne of Tarth is a descendant of Ser Duncan. Would GRRM have 2 of them in the story? That Ser Duncan did travel a lot.

Anyway I think Hodor's purpose is allow Bran to warg into him during some big battle (like at the Wall maybe) and fulfill his wish of being a knight.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

One does not simply warg into Hodor


OMG LOL!! I'm going to make you a whole batch of Lemon Pies.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:52 PM

Hodor may not be a piece in the game, but he may have relation to Dunk the Tall...

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

When I first saw this thread I thought it was insane. I still think there's no way Hodor is a Targ. But there is a scene in GoT where it's said that Hodor hates cold water (and soap), but will soak in the hottest of hot springs and loves it. So it's not 100% baseless.