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[iheartseverus]

*peeks into the thread*

*looks around for our Super Secret Double Agent and his Big Bag O'Spoilers*

psssst:  'addsend!  You here, pal?  addsend?'

No response.

*stomps out*

*slams the door*

[drm7]

boojam, on 01 June 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

He [Jaquen] might , well see, turn up as the Kindly Man, would save on casting a new actor.

That would be excellent!

[Crown]

drm7, on 02 June 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

That would be excellent!

How can Jaqen be in Oldtown and Braavos at the same time? Don't think they'll do that.

[iheartseverus]

Crown, on 02 June 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

How can Jaqen be in Oldtown and Braavos at the same time? Don't think they'll do that.

Well, he can be in Braavos, mysteriously tell Ayra that  'a Man must be away for a time'.  (A Man has patrol duties!)   She can continue on with the blind girl assistant or whomever, and a couple episodes later, a Man is back.

[Ciglon]

I highly doubt these theories that Jaqen will be kindly man or "so-and-so" will appear again in a different role...how would bringing an actor back as a different character be beneficial to the program at all? Sean Bean or anyone else coming back to GoT would be the most confusing thing ever for non-book readers.

Anyone have any thoughts on how jon's plot is going to play out tomorrow? Very confusing how they showed ygritte taking a swipe at Jon, wonder how they get around to the end of that storyline?

Edited by Ciglon, 02 June 2012 - 10:05 PM.

[_Oberyn_]

Wont be much, Jon kills Halfhand and then there will be some made up semi-cliffhanger.

[iheartseverus]

Ciglon, on 02 June 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

I highly doubt these theories that Jaqen will be kindly man

Why?  Tom W. as Jaqen has been a real fan favorite in this series--every scene with him and Ayra brings in tons of viewer response.  He's uber-mysterious, cool, laid-back, funny and strange with his third-person speech (that about a million forum posters have picked up, including this girl) -- and utterly magically deadly.  He's smoking sexy, without any hint of inappropriate or creepy vibes toward Ayra whatsoever (thank the gods, old and new!).  This show has combined, merged, substituted characters throughout, with great success, IMO.  Why then not let Jaqen introduce Ayra into the mysteries of the House of Black and White, instead of some new actor?  Providing Tom W. doesn't have other commitments that keep him from appearing in future episodes of GoT, I say he's flat-out perfect to substitute for the kindly man.  He's perfect.  Perfect.

[Arbor Gold I'm Sold]

_Oberyn_, on 02 June 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

Wont be much, Jon kills Halfhand and then there will be some made up semi-cliffhanger.

No Respect for the Halfhand! He has been a badass for the sake of the realm in an unwinnable war. Just wait the Halfhand will show his worth before he leaves this world.

[Night Gathers]

iheartseverus, on 02 June 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Why?  Tom W. as Jaqen has been a real fan favorite in this series--every scene with him and Ayra brings in tons of viewer response.  He's uber-mysterious, cool, laid-back, funny and strange with his third-person speech (that about a million forum posters have picked up, including this girl) -- and utterly magically deadly.  He's smoking sexy, without any hint of inappropriate or creepy vibes toward Ayra whatsoever (thank the gods, old and new!).  This show has combined, merged, substituted characters throughout, with great success, IMO.  Why then not let Jaqen introduce Ayra into the mysteries of the House of Black and White, instead of some new actor?  Providing Tom W. doesn't have other commitments that keep him from appearing in future episodes of GoT, I say he's flat-out perfect to substitute for the kindly man.  He's perfect.  Perfect.

Yes, he's maybe perfect for Jaqen H'ghar, but he's not the kindly old man.
I want to see an old man with a kind smile, who is maybe one of the most dangerous persons in Westeros and Essos combined, tutoring Arya the ways of the Faceless Men. Jaqen played his part, he is even one of my favorite characters, but I simply don't want him to be the kindly man in the series. After he made his leave in the books, I wanted Arya to come with him, I wanted to read so much more about him and to learn his history. But now, I'd be really pleased if he plays an important part in Arya's future story-line (post ADWD). That's maybe the way most viewers will feel, like most book readers felt, they wanted to see more of Jaqen and they'll see him in season 5 with his new face.

Jaqen seems to be on a really big mission overall, if he's supposed to show Arya the house of Black and White, only to leave again, then he'll have screen time for maybe 1 minute. I'd rather have the Kindly man the whole time.

Edited by Night gathers, 03 June 2012 - 02:23 AM.

[Samalander]

iheartseverus, on 02 June 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Maybe he'll be the one to kill XXD, thereby saving Dany's life.

XXD is still alive in ADWD. Killing yet another character that is still alive in the books...

iheartseverus, on 02 June 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Why then not let Jaqen introduce Ayra into the mysteries of the House of Black and White, instead of some new actor?  

Because he has urget business at the Citadel, at the same time. It is known.

Edited by Samalander, 03 June 2012 - 02:27 AM.

[Lord Elrosir]

Yeah XXD is still alive in the books, but his storyline is unnecessary with the changes.  Quite frankly, it was not really that important in ADWD either.  Big deal, he brought 13 ships to try and barter with Dany, which when he didn't get his way gave reason for war from Qarth.  Not a deal breaker.

I wouldn't be surprised either way, with Xaro living or dying.  I think there is good story angles to go with either way.  I'm just hopin' for a glimpse of Ian McElhinney in tonights episode.  Oh, and Rhaegar.

Edited by Lord Elrosir, 03 June 2012 - 03:23 AM.

[TheEvilKing]

There'll be a lot going on in Dany's storyline if they include both the House of Undying and Ser Barry Stan in the next episode. I suspect we won't see Arstan Whitebeard until season 3 ep 1. Also I doubt Strong Belwas will be cast.

[Arkash]

I woulnd bother the death of XXD, I dont think it will drasticly change the plot.

But I'm totally against having Jaqen again in Braavos, would be a bad idea.

I'm confident in seing Barristan in the episode, but I may be wrong.

All in all, the three most exciting storylines for the episode are Jon's, Dany's and Theon's.
Even if I'm looking forward to Davos' scenes if he as any.

[victim]

Kind of off-topic but I really wanted to post this somewhere and didn't want to make a thread for it.

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T

o play a trick on its young star, show-runners David Bienoff and D.B. Weiss sent Allen a fake script for the finale. “They kind of added a scene where Bran jumps out and stabs me in the chest and says, ‘This is my Winterfell, not yours,’ ” says Allen. “And [the instruction] goes, ‘Theon lies on the floor dead.’

“I think after about two or three weeks the guys I was shooting with said, ‘Guys, you should call him up and tell him it’s a joke because he might be sitting there torturing himself, pulling his hair out.’

This is brilliance. Pure, brilliance!

Edited by victim, 03 June 2012 - 05:11 AM.

[boojam]

Night gathers, on 03 June 2012 - 02:22 AM, said:

Yes, he's maybe perfect for Jaqen H'ghar, but he's not the kindly old man.
I want to see an old man with a kind smile, who is maybe one of the most dangerous persons in Westeros and Essos combined, tutoring Arya the ways of the Faceless Men. Jaqen played his part, he is even one of my favorite characters, but I simply don't want him to be the kindly man in the series. After he made his leave in the books, I wanted Arya to come with him, I wanted to read so much more about him and to learn his history. But now, I'd be really pleased if he plays an important part in Arya's future story-line (post ADWD). That's maybe the way most viewers will feel, like most book readers felt, they wanted to see more of Jaqen and they'll see him in season 5 with his new face.

Would like to know what Tom Wlaschiha contract looks like.
Even tho in the novels Jaqen does appear in Crows (not as Jaqen).... it is so brief that blink and you would miss it.
Seeing how they Jazzed up Dany's Qarth story, I think it could have been more imaginative , but I am not one of those readers who opposes it ... I can see the same thing for Braavos... more happens there ... but for TV it probably needs a little punch up too.
To me, if the Kindly Man was Wlaschiha it would not bother me , a reader, one bit.

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Jaqen seems to be on a really big mission overall, if he's supposed to show Arya the house of Black and White, only to leave again, then he'll have screen time for maybe 1 minute. I'd rather have the Kindly man the whole time.

Even George has never explained Jaqen's presence in Yoren crew, when we know as a FM he could only have been there only on purpose, and the only hint we have is that he is there to meet Arya... to evaluate her? ... after all he is the one who gets her to Braavos. He would have earlier if she had been trying so hard to get back home.
I wonder, if , like in the novel, in E10, he reveals that he does know she is Arya Stark?
In the book he tells her twice he knows this.

[Sun]

Small episode 20 spoiler: (source is a poster on WiC)

[spoiler] There won't be a Rhaegar scene in the HotU sequence. [/spoiler]

Edited by Sun, 03 June 2012 - 04:24 PM.

[_Oberyn_]

Sun, on 03 June 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

Small episode 20 spoiler: (source is a poster on WiC)

[spoiler]There won't be a Rhaegar scene in the HotU sequence.[/spolier]

That was a given imo but i was still had some misguided hope

Got a link? Any more spoilers?

[Puck the Goat]

Cliffhangers (in no particular order) -

Jon - melee with QH... pretty cool fight, sans puppy
King's Landing - Tywin is savior, blah blah... has tea with his kids and "by the way, we don't have Arya"
Dany - Burning Down the House! Dragon's get big somehow and she shows up at the docks with the assassin closing in...
Robb - hmmm? maybe telling mommy he loves his new girlfriend?
Winterfell - burn baby burn
North - and the grand finale, 3 blasts.

[Crown]

Barristan the Bold will appear in the next episode: 'I know with Daenerys, she goes to the House of the Undying and maybe you'll see a character pop up who was in series one and [was not] in series two — we'll just see.'

http://www.mtv.com/n...n-greyjoy.jhtml

I can't think of any other character that may be able to appear in Essos with Dany. Well, actually I do, perhaps Petyr 'Teleport' Baelish.

Edited by Crown, 03 June 2012 - 08:32 AM.

[House Snow]

Can someone remind me what

Spoiler

the Rhaegar scene that everyone is upset about is?