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[BinkyBonks]

Who will turn out to be the principal bad guy of the series?

Roose Bolton? Littlefinger? Mellisandre? Varys? Who will it be?

Personally, I'm throwing in with Roose Bolton. He's so much more unambiguously evil than all the other characters. He's as clever as they come, and doesn't take half the risks that Littlefinger takes. Perhaps most important, he recognizes the power of magic -- and this is borne out by his regular leechings and his taking Qyburn into his employ.

Littlefinger, we're already clued into his schemes. Ditto Varys, if his epilogue soliloquy is to be believed. Mellisandre, we get a PoV chapter of her. Roose Bolton is still a mystery to us, and there's no doubt he's keeping something (or more likely many somethings) up his sleeve.

Edited by BinkyBonks, 28 May 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[Howling Mad]

IMO man's inhumanity toward man.

[Ramez012]

Howling4Reed, on 28 May 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

IMO man's inhumanity toward man.

THIS

[Darth Arya]

It's not a series where it is as clear cut as having one arch villian in my opinion.

[BinkyBonks]

Katherine Of House Sith, on 28 May 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

It's not a series where it is as clear cut as having one arch villian in my opinion.

Every story needs to have an arch-villain.

It is known.

[Kittyhat]

Well, there's always the Others maybe.  Inhumanity is pretty bad, and so are Littlefinger and Roose, but it turns out that all the scheming and backstabbing in the world can't save you from a zombie apocolypse.

I think it'd be kind of fitting actually to see all of their schemes and plans collapse like a house of cards in the face of the simple, harsh, brutal reality of an immediate and deadly supernatural invasion.  All that skill at the Game ... and suddenly, it means less than the dung stuck to the sole of your boot.  Surprise, filth.

[Darth Arya]

BinkyBonks, on 28 May 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Every story needs to have an arch-villain.

It is known.

This story is a little different, there are quite a few 'evil' characters and even more that are in a morally grey area, it's what makes it so interesting rather than the traditional good hero triumphs over evil nemesis and saves the realm.

[Kittyhat]

On the other hand, maybe it's Areo Hotah.

I could believe that.

[Fire Eater]

Katherine Of House Sith, on 28 May 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

This story is a little different, there are quite a few 'evil' characters and even more that are in a morally grey area, it's what makes it so interesting rather than the traditional good hero triumphs over evil nemesis and saves the realm.

I agree, GRRM said he doesn't do the dark lord and his evil minions kind of fiction. He prefers the Achilles vs Hector kind of hero vs hero. There are multiple villains in this series, but no one is the Palpatine or Sauron of the series.

[BinkyBonks]

House Bolton reminds me of the Gruesome Twosome from Wacky Races.

No question that when the shit hits the fan, they'll be on the same side as the zombies.

[BinkyBonks]

Katherine Of House Sith, on 28 May 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

This story is a little different, there are quite a few 'evil' characters and even more that are in a morally grey area, it's what makes it so interesting rather than the traditional good hero triumphs over evil nemesis and saves the realm.

Fire Eater, on 28 May 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I agree, GRRM said he doesn't do the dark lord and his evil minions kind of fiction. He prefers the Achilles vs Hector kind of hero vs hero. There are multiple villains in this series, but no one is the Palpatine or Sauron of the series.

Where's the grey in Roose Bolton?

He's evil, I tell you! Evil!

Edited by BinkyBonks, 28 May 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[Darth Arya]

Fire Eater, on 28 May 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I agree, GRRM said he doesn't do the dark lord and his evil minions kind of fiction. He prefers the Achilles vs Hector kind of hero vs hero. There are multiple villains in this series, but no one is the Palpatine or Sauron of the series.

It's a really refreshing way of doing things, it just makes it that much more intriguing to read.

[Darth Arya]

BinkyBonks, on 28 May 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Where's the grey in Roose Bolton?

He's evil, I tell you! Evil!

Yes he is unquestionably evil and doesn't have good intentions for the land but he also doesn't have the kind of power or Dark Overlord status either,he is just another man currying for power in The Game Of Thrones.

[Teal'c]

Either Littlefinger or Dany.

[ServantOnIce]

Arch Villain was King Joffrey but since he died there has been a nice "arch villain" hole.   Ramsay and Roose are evil but are not as powerful as Joffrey was. . Cersei was nasty in "AFFC" but she was so dumb that she ended up locked up where many dumb folks do every single day.

I guess the Arch Villain is the Great White Walker aka The Great Other . . .once he gets going GRRM's whole world is doomed.

[Stannis Eats No Peaches]

Pod and Hot Pie are the spies of unNed, the true archvillain.

[Flig]

Clearly it's Darkstar.


He is of the night.

[The Knight of ...]

Flig, on 28 May 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Clearly it's Darkstar.


He is of the night.

His incompetence at doing more than slicing the ears off little girls is just cover, he is the true mastermind of all the events in the series.

Varys and Littlefinger are playing checkers, Darkstar is playing chess.

[Grimwolfe]

patchface. i don't know what it is, the guy just seems a bit off

[Athanasius Pernath]

BinkyBonks, on 28 May 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Who will turn out to be the principal bad guy of the series?

the ADWD's cliffhangers?