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[Zappotack]

From this episode I take it Littlefinger is taking over Dontos role in getting Sansa out. I guess this makes sense with the show Littlefinger as he is not subtle at all.

[scurvy]

The other factor is that Sansa didn't leave KL w/ Sandor because she thought Dantos would get her out.  She rejected Sandor on the show for nothing.

[Magjee]

LF might use him on the show next season, or not.

The cast is becoming kinda huge.

Either way she escapes with LF

[Longspear Ryk]

Dontos being casted was a waste.. Shoulda gave us ramsey instead

[Hoya Karsa Orlong]

Im ok with LF.  Sets up LF using Dontos next season as alternative.   LF bumping him off and being behind the escape offer will have a little more foreshadowing.

[Ingólfr]

Hoya Karsa Orlong, on 04 June 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Im ok with LF.  Sets up LF using Dontos next season as alternative.   LF bumping him off and being behind the escape offer will have a little more foreshadowing.

This is pretty much what I anticipate. Dontos will probably be around for the next session or two as the intermediate between Petyr and Sansa while while the former is off being a magnificent bastard elsewhere.

[Prince of Dragonstone]

I don't think they would have gone through the trouble of introducing his character, and Sansa saving him from Joffrey's wrath, for no reason. D&D have said in several interviews that there were many seeds planted in S2 that will take root in S3. Dontos, Mance, the Boltons and the RW being definitely in that category.

[King Cheops]

scurvy, on 04 June 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

The other factor is that Sansa didn't leave KL w/ Sandor because she thought Dantos would get her out.  She rejected Sandor on the show for nothing.

Except that it could have been a trap or trick by Joffrey to test her.  You can see she thinks about it but then changes her mind.  Good acting on her part.

Dontos can still serve a purpose because Petyr can't show his hand.  His plot needs Sansa to remain anonymous until he can wed her to Robyn so if he is too overtly involved in smuggling her out then it could link back to him.  Using Dontos means that there are no loose ends after he kills him.  Varys's birds can't be allowed to see/hear what's happening.

[turdle]

King Cheops, on 04 June 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

Except that it could have been a trap or trick by Joffrey to test her.  You can see she thinks about it but then changes her mind.  Good acting on her part.

i guess... but then she says, "you won't hurt me." and he says, "no, i won't hurt you," and walks away. so i don't know that that explanation really works since she sincerely believes he won't hurt her. granted, sansa is VERY wary of any and everyone's attempt to be kind to her, but the hound said something to the effect of "the king can die just fine on his own," which would very strange of him to be bluffing given the nature of the hound, which sansa should know.

[King Cheops]

Yeah but he needs to build up the trust right?  I mean she runs away with Dontos and then it turns out he is taking her to Baelish for some gold and then Baelish kills Dontos.  He needs to start planting the idea in her head that he is on her side.

Edited by King Cheops, 04 June 2012 - 11:23 PM.

[turdle]

King Cheops, on 04 June 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

Yeah but he needs to build up the trust right?  I mean she runs away with Dontos and then it turns out he is taking her to Baelish for some gold and then Baelish kills Dontos.  He needs to start planting the idea in her head that he is on her side.

i was referring to her interaction with sandor.

but yes, i agree that if dontos is going to be her means of escape they need to get that ball in motion.

[FierceElite]

I imagine Littlefinger will go to the Vale, and continue to use Dontos as the middleman until he returns to get Sansa. Not that I condone that they already gave away the fact that Littlefinger is the one pulling the strings.

[The Last Reyne]

Yeah but Dontos was a useless character in the book. I'm not going to miss him.

[Zappotack]

So now is he just going to be an actual fool and nothing else I wonder...

[Buckwheat]

I do not understand why they introduced him in the first episode and he did not appear since then - even if he appears in the next season again, no non-reader will remember who in seven hells he was.

[StarkWard]

Buckwheat, on 05 June 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

I do not understand why they introduced him in the first episode and he did not appear since then - even if he appears in the next season again, no non-reader will remember who in seven hells he was.

He appeared in Blackwater as the fool juggling in Maegor's Holdfast. Had about 2 seconds of screen time.

[Jojosh]

Did we even have a scene with sansa and dontos apart from the premiere? You could come to the conclusion that he was not important way earlier than now

[Buckwheat]

StarkWard, on 05 June 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

He appeared in Blackwater as the fool juggling in Maegor's Holdfast. Had about 2 seconds of screen time.

Oh, he did? I apologise, I did not even notice him. That kind of shows how important he is in the show.

[Nathaniel Hawke]

I'm kinda relieved we see no more Dontos in the show. The very image of Sansa laying all her hopes on a drunkard seemed like a bad image for me in the books. Littlefinger, devilish as he is, is quite enjoyable and his plans to take advantage of Sansa's weakness and naivity really underline his character.

Edited by Nathaniel Hawke, 05 June 2012 - 05:37 AM.

[The Third Reed]

Hoya Karsa Orlong, on 04 June 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Im ok with LF.  Sets up LF using Dontos next season as alternative.   LF bumping him off and being behind the escape offer will have a little more foreshadowing.

Personally I liked the fact that Littlefinger emerging from the darkness of the ship came as a surprise to me.

The Last Reyne, on 05 June 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Yeah but Dontos was a useless character in the book. I'm not going to miss him.

What?

Personally, I am still optimistic Sansa's story can be done well, but only if they give the viewer the idea that Littlefinger has abandoned her by sailing to the Vale/ ratted on her re. her marriage to Willas. I will be incredibly disappointed if before LF leaves for the Vale, he gives us another "I'll get you home" speech.