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[Only Fire and Blood?]

Did I miss a bit where it said she may not have liked Robert or something? I hope she did run off willingly as it makes for a tragic and moving storyline in my view.

[David Selig]

Rhaegar was really hot, and unlike Robert, had a working brain.

[ARYa_Nym]

Maybe their personalities contrasted well with one another and they fell in love.

Rhaegar gave her the agency to run away from her duty of arranged marriage.

If shallow reasons factored in however good Robert looked Rhaegar looked better IMO or maybe she was just more attracted to him.

Rhaegar may not have been faithful to his wife Elia since he wasn't in love with her but he could be faithful to Lyanna. Robert should have perhaps been an unmarried sellsword.

At the story of Harrenhal Robert didn't seem to be paying her much attention. He was drinking or wanting to fight. Maybe Rhaegar slipped in and showed her the attention she wasn't getting from her betrothed although it's true that we don't know if they were engaged yet at that point.

[Noimporta]

Teenage + Hormones = Poor Long and Mid Term Decision Making.

[The Last Direwolf]

1) She loved him more than Robert.
2) She was young and incredibly naïve of what would happen as a consequence.

[Only Fire and Blood?]

David Selig, on 08 June 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Rhaegar was really hot, and unlike Robert, had a working brain.

Very true haha. Although on the brain part if he had put love second he would have been King and the whole rebellion wouldn't have happened.

[Winterfell is Burning]

It doesn't make sense to me. If she was so much like Arya, it would wildly out of character- even Sansa at the beginning of AGOT wouldn't do something that silly. If she really did it, is not consistent with what GRRM presented about her already.

David Selig, on 08 June 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Rhaegar was really hot, and unlike Robert, had a working brain.

If he really had one, then he wouldn't run away with her in the first place.

[David Selig]

Winterfell is Burning, on 08 June 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

If he really had one, then he wouldn't run away with her in the first place.

I am not a Rhaegar fan at all, but by all accounts he was quite smart. One mistake doesn't change that, and if the whole thing leads to the PWWP prophesy being fulfilled and saving the world, it's not even a mistake in the long run.

[ARYa_Nym]

I believe it's possible that Arya would even if she wasn't in love with the other guy. Arya makes rash decisions sometimes and is impulsive. Let's say she learned about Elmar Frey. I'm not saying that she likes Gendry but if he said run away with me so you don't have to be with him then Elmar is getting left. Now that wouldn't have the political consequences but Arya could just as easily been in Lyanna's place IMO.

[Sand Snake No. 9]

Yeah, teh hotness.

Apparently she really, really, really didn't want to marry Robert B.

It's also implied that she was the Knight of the Laughing Tree, who defended Howland Reed in the jousts, and that Rhaegar made her the Queen of Love and Beauty as a reward for honor and martial prowess.  Talk about flattery upon flattery.  I hope we get the whole story of that tournament some time (I'm looking at you, Bran).

[Ned's Epic Beard]

Knife on the throat and squad of armed kings-guard. jk/

Thing that I find strange is if she had gone off willingly, why not inform your family or at least your beloved brother?

[Winterfell is Burning]

David Selig, on 08 June 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

I am not a Rhaegar fan at all, but by all accounts he was quite smart. One mistake doesn't change that, and if the whole thing leads to the PWWP prophesy being fulfilled and saving the world, it's not even a mistake in the long run.

Well, if Jon really is the PWWP and is really his son, then the best thing Rhaegar did for his son was...to die, otherwise he'd never be in the Wall where he needed to be, nor would have as much respect for the Night's Watch, nor would he have learned humility being treated as bastard, and so on.

ARYa_Nym, on 08 June 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

I believe it's possible that Arya would even if she wasn't in love with the other guy. Arya makes rash decisions sometimes and is impulsive. Let's say she learned about Elmar Frey. I'm not saying that she likes Gendry but if he said run away with me so you don't have to be with him then Elmar is getting left. Now that wouldn't have the political consequences but Arya could just as easily been in Lyanna's place IMO.

Arya would do anything to be with her family again. And she's much, much younger than Lyanna. I absolutely don't see her doing anything at all, specially if she was older and somewhat more mature.

[Winterfell is Burning]

Ned, on 08 June 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Knife on the throat and squad of armed kings-guard. jk/

Thing that I find strange is if she had gone off willingly, why not inform your family or at least your beloved brother?

And not inform anyone about it for over a year? Not sending one raven (not necessarily from the Tower of Joy, just send a messenger to do it from somwhere else) about it, while the entire realm is at war?

[Sand Snake No. 9]

Some Northern girls have the running gene.  Alys Karstark, for instance.

[Winterfell is Burning]

Sand Snake No. 9, on 08 June 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:

Some Northern girls have the running gene.  Alys Karstark, for instance.

Well, she had to run or die. Not much of a choice.

[theguyfromtheVale]

And Lyanna had to run or marry Robert. Not much of a choie either, considering Bob's nonexistent impulse control.

[ARYa_Nym]

Winterfell is Burning, on 08 June 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Arya would do anything to be with her family again. And she's much, much younger than Lyanna. I absolutely don't see her doing anything at all, specially if she was older and somewhat more mature.

I don't believe that Catelyn could have made her marry Elmar if Robb hadn't messed up that alliance. I could see it maybe if it was someone  who she already liked but not Elmar.

It's harder for her to run away because she was younger and in a war zone but Rhaegar had power so Lyanna may have seen him as an ability to get away from it all. It was a poor decision but it's not something I can't see Arya doing.

[Winter's Knight]

Winterfell is Burning, on 08 June 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

And not inform anyone about it for over a year? Not sending one raven (not necessarily from the Tower of Joy, just send a messenger to do it from somwhere else) about it, while the entire realm is at war?

We don't know what happened-for example, how did Brandon know that Rhaegar had abducted Lyanna and not some other knight/lord/stable boy? Or that she hadn't run off on her own?

[LordBloodraven]

David Selig, on 08 June 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Rhaegar was really hot, and unlike Robert, had a working brain.

Are we sure of that? After all he caused a war.

To the OP, I guess they fell in love. Rhaegar unmasked Lyanna and wanted her to be the mother of the third head

[TheHedgeWizard]

Young Robert loved girls just as much as the Older Robert we see in GoT. Lyanna knew this and knew he would never change. Rheager was a decent chap as well as a prince.

Edited by TheHedgeWizard, 08 June 2012 - 07:20 PM.