Falrinn, on 09 June 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:
A Time for Wolves was probably way too Stark-centric for what GRRM is actually planning.
Even though the Starks will probably play an important role in the book, chances are plenty of other charters do as well. A Time for Wolves would imply that only the Starks are important.
What if, for example, the person most responsible for ending the war with the Others isn't a Stark? Then it isn't really "a time for wolves" at all now is it?
It's just very difficult to judge the merits of a title for a book we know almost nothing about.
Sure, although personally I think the North having to gather it's strength again to deal with the threat beyond the wall is one of the few certainties for the rest of the series and I think it will take a Stark to rally the north.
If I'm right about that then I think A Time for Wolves would be the perfect title. Sure other characters are going to be important but a title can never encompass the whole book and the Starks are at the core of the series. Besides A Time for Wolves, Dragons, Lions, Stags, Krakens, Roses, Falcons, Hounds and the Sun doesn't have the same ring to it
Apple Martini, on 09 June 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:
I have no idea what you're even trying to say. Someone said that "A Time for Wolves" wouldn't work because it's too house-centric. I just said that by that logic, "A Dance With Dragons" shouldn't have been used either, because dragons are to Targs but wolves are to Starks.
Yeah, obviously A Time for Wolves evokes the Starks but I did take A Dance with Dragons as evoking Daenerys and her dragons so I don't really see the difference, it seems a bit pedantic to say it isn't a reference to her part of the story just because it's 'dragons' rather than 'dragon'. Daenerys has dragons
and by the end of Dance there is more than one Targaryen anyways.
I did mention other things the title could refer to besides the Starks though:
richardpale, on 09 June 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:
I took it as a reference to winter where the lone wolf dies and the pack survives, suggesting the chaos in the Seven Kingdoms by this point where a pack of wolves would thrive like Nymeria's has in the Riverlands,
I love that it implies House Stark would recover and be pivotal to the story again before the series is over and all that aside it's just a damn cool title.
Which Tyler, on 09 June 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:
I feel that A Dream Of Spring is a bit spoiler-y.
Winter is related to the White Walkers; and therefore, so are the un-natural seasons of Westeros.
I'd suggest that The Winds of Winter suggests that the White Walkers are going be in the ascendency, whilst A Dream Of Spring suggests that they're being beaten back; possibly permanently
I agree with this too although I don't think it's a bad thing and it applies to A Time for Wolves as well. I think most good titles hint at something about the story.
Edited by richardpale, 10 June 2012 - 08:12 AM.