1. We don't know much about this,so no room for it to be used as an argument.
2. Obvious? Rather the opposite.
3. He calls them "my sons" because in the eyes and the mind of the household they ARE his sons.
4.Many Targs don't have the typical dragon blood features. Jon favours his mother's looks,just like Baelor Breakspear or Rhaegar's daughter. Besides,it may be that Jon's dark eyes hide some extra shade...
5.Exactly? No. They both carry typical Stark features.
6.Blue Rose draws a direct connection to Bael the Bard's story,kidnapped daughter and the son that will carry on the noble family's name. Lyanna loved blue roses,and we have the Harenhall crown,and the petals that spill out of her palm,when dying. And blue roses that have thorns - in Ned's nightmares. (pain connected to them)
7.Jon is a bastard = he has a life of a bastard.
8.He gets irritated because she asks about Jon.
9.Stannis is the rightful heir,on the basis of the conquest. He own his leige to Stannis.
Your responses are quite appropriate, but for the sake of argument (and fun), I would like to respond:
7. My counter-argument is that Ned would not think of Jon as a bastard if he really was the product of R + L = J.
8. I have to disagree that it's the subject of Jon that got Ned upset. If you recall, Catelyn subsequently brought up Jon all the time to Ned, about how she wanted Ned to send him away. But Ned's reaction to Catelyn talking about Jon and Ashara together made her afraid for the one and only time in their marriage. As such, I would argue that it was the subject of Ashara that got Ned upset.
9. One point all supporters of R + L =J make is the fact that Ned never thinks of Jon as his son at all in his POV chapters. Using this logic, I was just arguing that at no point does Ned think of Jon as the true heir, which you would expect would have crossed Ned's mind at some point.
Edited by Maxpey, 18 June 2012 - 10:06 AM.