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Is it too obvious that Jamie... [SPOILERS]


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#1 Mormont'sRaven

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 09:32 PM

will kill Cercei?

Think about it, that prophetess said that she will be killed by her younger brother so we're all supposed to think Tyrion but isn't Jamie younger by a minute or two?

Thus, HE will be the one to strangle Cercei and NOT Tyrion.

Is it too obvious or am I clearly wrong?

#2 LuisDantas

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 09:40 PM

Not too obvious, but the potential is certainly there. Jaime may well end up killing Cersei, either to protect Tommen (who is after all his son) or to protect King's Landing.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

It's a possibility. Although it may be the other way around you never know;or something completely different happens. If it were to come down to one of them killing one another, I'd be reading and cheering on Jaime.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:26 PM

Nothing is too obvious in ASOIAF. Just when you think something is too obvious, something else happens.

Although I would completely welcome Jaime killing Cersei.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:27 AM

The idea had crossed my mind, but indeed, I somehow think it would be a bit too obvious. I think the weird prophecy (if it even is reliable in this aspect) might refer to something completely different and obscure. (No idea what, though.)

I can imagine Jaime killing Cersei either for the reasons stated above, or for some completely random reason - maybe some sort of "accident" (in a sudden fit of anger, for instance; e.g. they are sitting and dining, talking, then she says something really mean, he gets angry up to the point that he hits her, he actually hits her with his golden hand without realising how much more strength that one does, and kills her. Okay, that sounds stupid, but you get the point).

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:57 AM

How had I never thought about this? I'm not sure that it would happen, but I wouldn't be upset about it if it did. Jaime's hate toward Cersei seems to grow a little more and more as time goes on. Although, part of me thinks that his anger toward her is partially due to him being upset at himself for not seeing her for what she was sooner, for allowing himself to be used as a pawn and be played. I don't know, maybe it's just me...

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:34 AM

it could happen. It's not as if Jaime and Cersei are very close at the moment. Jaime could end up killing Cersei to protect the King or the Kingdom, as he swore he would do.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:59 AM

When Jamie said to burn that plea for help could basically being Cersi being killed by her little Brother because he didn't come save her and left her to die in the hands of the Sparrows or the Tyrells.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 09:05 AM

When Jamie said to burn that plea for help could basically being Cersi being killed by her little Brother because he didn't come save her and left her to die in the hands of the Sparrows or the Tyrells.


I had the same idea, mayhaps his lack of action, or chosen path might kill her. Might be he would protect the honor of his sons wife during the trial of combat instead of Cersei's, and that will be the day when his left hand proves as good as his right hand? It seems highly un probable that Tyrion would or could kill her... Unless he and Bronn do it together, it is also a possibility.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 02:34 PM

Yeah, I'm along the same lines as the last two posters here. Cersei might be hung or something (strangled) and she will view it as happening because of Jaime's lack of action (as he could almost certainly beat anyone in trial by combat if he cared to).

*EDIT* Gahh momentarily forgot about the missing hand. Jaime wouldn't be a great champion to choose at this particular time.

Edited by LampreyPie, 22 June 2012 - 02:35 PM.


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Posted 22 June 2012 - 04:22 PM

*EDIT* Gahh momentarily forgot about the missing hand. Jaime wouldn't be a great champion to choose at this particular time.


You do forget, though
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#12 LampreyPie

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:29 PM

True, he wouldn't be too bad. He might get to where he was before he lost his hand. I don't think he yet has the status he had before, when as he says there were maybe 3 men in Westeros who could defeat him in a swordfight. (I know he could have just been boasting but I think he was right.)

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 01:11 AM

Nothing is too obvious in ASOIAF. Just when you think something is too obvious, something else happens.

Although I would completely welcome Jaime killing Cersei.


Too true! I've been shocked over and over in these books.

I'm rooting on Jamie too in this regard.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 01:35 AM

We know that Robert Strong is big and strong, but IIRC there is little evidence of how skilled at arms he is. For that matter, it is not clear that he is even capable of independent decision. Maybe he will turn out to be a dumb brute or at least a slow one. Jaime might end up defeating him. Or if not Jaime, Meryn Trant would be the logical choice.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:24 AM

At this point it could be anyone. But the fact that Cercei has been having the same reoccuring dream could also be a way of showing us that her time in Westeros is running down to its last min.

ugggh don't know how to properly use the spoiler code so I will remove it for now.

Edited by Retoreance Stone, 25 June 2012 - 12:26 AM.


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:30 AM

When Jamie said to burn that plea for help could basically being Cersi being killed by her little Brother because he didn't come save her and left her to die in the hands of the Sparrows or the Tyrells.


Same thing cross my mind. But I'm still expecting one of the brothers (or, less likely, Tommen as Joff/Myrcella's younger brother) to be the one who directly ends her life. Although perhaps not how we imagine (maybe Cersei will be driven insane/near death locked away for so long and one of her kin ends her in pity?)

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:35 AM

Somehow I don't see him strangling her one-handed.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:29 AM

You never know what Jaime is truly capable of, and at this rate his distaste for Cersei is only growing. Personally, I don't care who kills her as long as she's dead. (It would just be a nice and ironic if it were Jaime after all of their history together)

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:44 PM

It won't be Jaime or Tyrion, it will be Kevan, Tywin's younger brother.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:20 PM

For me, when Jamie threw the letter in the fire, it was almost as if it was the culmination of how much he hated Cersei. Like was finally saying; "screw that bitch."

He could just kill her out of spite, like Tyrion did to Tywin. It would be the ultimate irony: the Lannisters fuck everyone over with trecheary, deceit, and lies, and end up destroying themselves the same way. I think GRRM agrees with me on that one: what better way to end the Lannisters?