TheHoodedLady Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I have only just started a re-read from the beginning so I imagine there's going to be a lot I missed first time around.I remember being shocked by Jorah's betrayal of Dany later on in the series yet, in the first few chapter of GoT he is mentionned by Robert as someone who is feeding info to Varys. Completely missed it on the first read.Exactly! I'm in the middle of AGOT re-read and this is what totally struck me. I missed it on my first read, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty501 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Originally, I didn't realise that Brown Ben Plumm was actually brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I was surprised, again, that it was Sansa who told the queen about Neds plan to leave Kings Landing.i didn't pick up on this my first time through. i'm in the middle of ACOK right now, but when i read that in AGOT my 2nd time through i was furious. it made me hate Sansa so much more. As to the Reek comments, i just read that part again and it is still confusing haha. I definitely think that the Red wedding was seen in the house of the undying, and i think her vision of Rhaegar talking about how he needed another child makes the R+L=J argument stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 another that I just thought about, Renly asks Catelyn if Barristan Selmy had joined Robb, saying that he vowed to join the true king. He then anticipated facing Selmy if he rode with stannis, but we see him show up books later with Dany, which i thought was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik733 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I just finished my 2nd read of AFFC and jumped up at the significance of the musician who stayed with the freys at riverrun after the siege...tom o seven, member of the BWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenchofTarth Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The whole Renly/Loras thing, certainly didn't pick that up the first time through. Then it was obvious, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Drake Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 Something else that I picked up on this read through - Stannis tells Davos that Melisandre had a vision of his army being defeated at Kings Landing by "Renly in his green armour". This ends up happening anyway, although Loras is in the armour instead of Renly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R'holling in the Deep Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Something else that I picked up on this read through - Stannis tells Davos that Melisandre had a vision of his army being defeated at Kings Landing by "Renly in his green armour". This ends up happening anyway, although Loras is in the armour instead of Renly.It's actually Loras' brother Garlan!I just finished my first read! There are many things I could only fully understand thanks to the wiki of ice and fire. Others I don't get at all, like Rhaenys' cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Drake Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's actually Loras' brother Garlan!I just finished my first read! There are many things I could only fully understand thanks to the wiki of ice and fire. Others I don't get at all, like Rhaenys' cat.Cheers, I couldn't remember properly, just that it was Renly's armour (also, that is a great name you have). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Northerner Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 SOOOO many things. Basically, any foreshadowing.I'm re-reading by POV, and just finished the Eddard chapters. First time around, I kind of just breezed through any and all mentions of the ToJ, or his promise to Lyanna. R+L=J didn't even occur to me until after I spent times on the forums here.Anyhow, re-reading those chapters, it all seems so clear!And there is this one Jon chapter, either in GoT of CoK, where he is talking to Mormont, and his raven jumps on his shoulder repeating the word "king" all while staring at Jon. Also in another Jon chapter, right after they leave to go North of the Wall, Jon teases Sam that the only word he was able to teach his ravens was "Snow", making the set-up of when Jon is elected Lord Commander that much more obvious.I didn't think it possible, but re-reading is even more enjoyable than the first time around. I can't believe how many clues and little tid-bits there are to pick up on, and really can only be picked up on once someone knows the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb Knightfrost Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Had to have been all the evidence(to my mind) concerning Rhaegar and Lyanna(and Jon), especially how Robert's was the only negative opinion of Rhaegar. That and it seemed that Robert loved Lyanna, but Lyanna was less enchanted by him. totally missed that the first 3 times I reread the books. Ned's secrets and promise and more keeping secrets and a few more ominous, forshadowy seeeecretssss.Another, subtle, very subtle “Loras, stay and help me pray..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb Knightfrost Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The black tom that Arya chases through King's Landing is Rhaenys' Cat, Balerion, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Drake Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think so, aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Hand Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I don't know why but I had thought that Theon killed the wife and kids all by himself then I realized he hadn't. His story is alot sadder now that I know where its going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born amidst salt and smoke Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I though it was clever that Tom O' seven strings was the one who played to Edumre for Jaime, it coinsides with Bryndens escape. Also, the resemblance that the Darksstar Gerold Dayne has to a Targeyen, the fact he takes his name from two of the Kings Guard that were present at the tower of Joy is also interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Drake Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 I never noticed before that Jon dreams about talking to Tree Bran who is described as smelling of a tree, wolf and boy. He also says how he likes being in the dark. That is a fair bit of foreshadowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R'holling in the Deep Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Cheers, I couldn't remember properly, just that it was Renly's armour (also, that is a great name you have). Thanks! The black tom that Arya chases through King's Landing is Rhaenys' Cat, Balerion, right?It's, but I never understood how we are supposed to acknowledged this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evita mgfs Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I didn't realize that Littlefinger truly "thinks" he deflowered Cat - (He thought Lyssa was Cat). Here there is truth behind LF's boasts. My 'mother' pointed this out to me. Dah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasick Drake Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah I didn't pick up on that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evita mgfs Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The black tom that Arya chases through King's Landing is Rhaenys' Cat, Balerion, right?I caught that on my reread too. I bet the fact that cat escaped [the murders in Maegor's] could bolster some theories about the baby swapping. Did Varys save the kitty too? - or did kitty scat fast!? I bet that kitty SAW everything, so when Arya returns to Kingslanding, she wargs that cat and learns what REALLY happened with babyswapping, raping, and head cracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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