Showed this to the kids. Jay teared up. We saw that Anon had posted the FB's, phone numbers and addresses of the little turds involved. Jay, holding back tears, asked if we could send the kids mean messages, and that if that didn't make them cry, "maybe we could stab them...just a small one." I like where his heart is, but I am slightly concerned.
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Unbelievable. Kids bully elderly bus monitor.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:51 PM
Most kids are shits, especially when they pack together. But sometimes the good in humanity outweighs the shit: Almost $70,000 has since been donated to that woman to go on the "vacation of a lifetime" or just straight up retire.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:09 PM
Jesus. I know I had my moments of being a little shit as a kid but I have never come anywhere close to being that mean to someone. If that was my grandmother there would be retribution. I don't know exactly what I'd do to those little fucks, but there would be something coming their way.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:48 PM
I know Greece. Used to work there before I came to Florida. This is disgusting and I am very curious to see what their parents think about this. My friend substitutes for the Greece school district so I wonder what the district's teachers and school staff have to say about this.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:23 PM
Sad indeed. Had she responded to the taunts, no doubt SHE, an adult would be accused of bullying poor little children and likely would be in jail tonight. It would have been said she should have known better than to respond to childrens sallies. She is lucky she kept quiet...though I do wish she could have said something. The bus driver however...should have stopped the bus and demand good behavior.
Kids can be poxy brats.
Kids can be poxy brats.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:55 PM
I couldn't watch more than about a minute of that video. How heart-breaking.
So sad when she just quietly tells them "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all," and their response is "Shut the fuck up" and continued denigration.
So sad when she just quietly tells them "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all," and their response is "Shut the fuck up" and continued denigration.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 11:58 PM
This made me feel like an old man... I am 42 years old, and I was trying to imagine what the consequences would have been for me and my friends had we done this as school kids.
First off, the school would have called my parents and asked for permission to give me licks which they would have gleefully provided. I would have spent a few weeks in detention, and I would have never thought about riding another bus again. I would be walking to school for the rest of the time I attended there.
Then, I would have gotten home to my parents... I probably to this day wouldn't be able to sit down, and I would still be grounded.
It is not in my character to do these things anyway, but if it was, the consequences would have been so monumental that I would have never crossed that line.
First off, the school would have called my parents and asked for permission to give me licks which they would have gleefully provided. I would have spent a few weeks in detention, and I would have never thought about riding another bus again. I would be walking to school for the rest of the time I attended there.
Then, I would have gotten home to my parents... I probably to this day wouldn't be able to sit down, and I would still be grounded.
It is not in my character to do these things anyway, but if it was, the consequences would have been so monumental that I would have never crossed that line.
Edited by Holafernando Torres, 20 June 2012 - 11:58 PM.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:09 AM
In an interview she said the most hurtfull thing they said was the part about how her kids should kill themselves because she's so fat and ugly...her son committed suicide 10 years ago, she is widowed as well.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:18 AM
This is really awful to watch.
The kid whose face appears probably will have his own life ruined by this.
I don't know what ought to be done. We can't fix every problem in the world, but this viciousness directed at an elderly person is unfathomable.What cowards.*
ETA: If you found out, to your dismay, that your own son was this ringleader and this video aired, how would you react?
*I would like to amend this to "What children." This is not any kind of justification, but if one nasty kid takes root, they have incredible potential to mess up the other kids around them.
The kid whose face appears probably will have his own life ruined by this.
I don't know what ought to be done. We can't fix every problem in the world, but this viciousness directed at an elderly person is unfathomable.
ETA: If you found out, to your dismay, that your own son was this ringleader and this video aired, how would you react?
*I would like to amend this to "What children." This is not any kind of justification, but if one nasty kid takes root, they have incredible potential to mess up the other kids around them.
Edited by Trzysztof Trieślowski, 21 June 2012 - 01:09 AM.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:30 AM
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ETA: If you found out, to your dismay, that your own son was this ringleader and this video aired, how would you react?
Recorded apology on youtube preceded by a caning while wearing a pink tutu (the son, not me. Wouldnt wanna turn BFC on that much)
Trzysztof Trieślowski, on 21 June 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:
ETA: If you found out, to your dismay, that your own son was this ringleader and this video aired, how would you react?
Recorded apology on youtube preceded by a caning while wearing a pink tutu (the son, not me. Wouldnt wanna turn BFC on that much)
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:30 AM
Those kids are vile, cruel and pathetic.
This is heartbreaking. This poor woman.... my god. All I can think about is if this was my own grandmother.......(well, needless to say shit would get real for these kids)
What is disappointing, aside from such disgusting behaviour on behalf of the antagonists of the video, is that no one bothered to stand up for this woman and intervene.... (unless I'm missing something here)
This is heartbreaking. This poor woman.... my god. All I can think about is if this was my own grandmother.......(well, needless to say shit would get real for these kids)
What is disappointing, aside from such disgusting behaviour on behalf of the antagonists of the video, is that no one bothered to stand up for this woman and intervene.... (unless I'm missing something here)
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:05 AM
Istari, on 21 June 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:
Those kids are vile, cruel and pathetic.
This is heartbreaking. This poor woman.... my god. All I can think about is if this was my own grandmother.......(well, needless to say shit would get real for these kids)
What is disappointing, aside from such disgusting behaviour on behalf of the antagonists of the video, is that no one bothered to stand up for this woman and intervene.... (unless I'm missing something here)
This is heartbreaking. This poor woman.... my god. All I can think about is if this was my own grandmother.......(well, needless to say shit would get real for these kids)
What is disappointing, aside from such disgusting behaviour on behalf of the antagonists of the video, is that no one bothered to stand up for this woman and intervene.... (unless I'm missing something here)
I couldn't watch this past a minute and a half it was just too evil. Watching it makes me feel overwhelmed with guilt and shame because even before seeing this I've constantly thought about the time back when I was in high school and I was riding home from school on the bus and one girl who was always sweet and nice to me was kneeling over the back of her bus seat talking to someone and this kid I knew for years and knew to be one of the biggest jackasses ever said to her "Sit Ubu, sit! Good dog!" and I didn't say a thing.
What the kids did to that lady was 100x worse but I keep thinking would I have said anything. I so hope I would but I know the most likely thing is the me I was then would have just kept his mouth shut and stayed quiet, I never would have joined in but I don't know if that really could be counted as marking that big a difference between me and those rotten monsters.
I wish these kids would somehow get banned from riding the school bus...forever. Let the parents have to deal with getting them to school by arranging other transportation or making them have to walk, and the banning could also never be used as an excuse for being tardy or absent, if they miss any school they (and their parents) pay the same price as any other kid for truancy.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:13 AM
drawkcabi, on 21 June 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:
I couldn't watch this past a minute and a half it was just too evil. Watching it makes me feel overwhelmed with guilt and shame because even before seeing this I've constantly thought about the time back when I was in high school and I was riding home from school on the bus and one girl who was always sweet and nice to me was kneeling over the back of her bus seat talking to someone and this kid I knew for years and knew to be one of the biggest jackasses ever said to her "Sit Ubu, sit! Good dog!" and I didn't say a thing.
What the kids did to that lady was 100x worse but I keep thinking would I have said anything. I so hope I would but I know the most likely thing is the me I was then would have just kept his mouth shut and stayed quiet, I never would have joined in but I don't know if that really could be counted as marking that big a difference between me and those rotten monsters.
I wish these kids would somehow get banned from riding the school bus...forever. Let the parents have to deal with getting them to school by arranging other transportation or making them have to walk, and the banning could also never be used as an excuse for being tardy or absent, if they miss any school they (and their parents) pay the same price as any other kid for truancy.
What the kids did to that lady was 100x worse but I keep thinking would I have said anything. I so hope I would but I know the most likely thing is the me I was then would have just kept his mouth shut and stayed quiet, I never would have joined in but I don't know if that really could be counted as marking that big a difference between me and those rotten monsters.
I wish these kids would somehow get banned from riding the school bus...forever. Let the parents have to deal with getting them to school by arranging other transportation or making them have to walk, and the banning could also never be used as an excuse for being tardy or absent, if they miss any school they (and their parents) pay the same price as any other kid for truancy.
Too your point, I think that choosing to ignore bullys as they reign terror upon their victims is a common problem amongst kids. I know in my youth there were definitely circumstances that I wish I could have acted differently. But for something like this - something so blatantly horrible and evil - you would think that kids would recognize right from wrong. Maybe I've got my hopes up...
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:00 AM
The campaign to assist Ms. Klein is a wonderful response to these children and their vitriol.
As an educator, I can honestly say that most students I work with would never, not in a million years, act this way towards an elderly member of the public. While no one is perfect, and there might be quiet comments made with snickers (because, let's be honest, we all make snide comments about people from time to time), none of the students I work with would stoop this low. Perhaps I still have my blinders on, but honestly, I think this was a rotten core group while most just tried to ignore it.
To be fair, I couldn't make it thirty seconds into the video. I think most people can watch this and instantly remember when they were laughed at or taunted or ridiculed as children. And yes, the worst comment is the one with "your kids should go kill themselves" after her son had already committed suicide.
This video has had me fuming for the past twenty-four hours. I sent her a facebook message expressing my solidarity, and I hope she gets to tuck a little away. Obviously, from the donations that have come in, this story struck a chord with a lot of people internationally.
As an educator, I can honestly say that most students I work with would never, not in a million years, act this way towards an elderly member of the public. While no one is perfect, and there might be quiet comments made with snickers (because, let's be honest, we all make snide comments about people from time to time), none of the students I work with would stoop this low. Perhaps I still have my blinders on, but honestly, I think this was a rotten core group while most just tried to ignore it.
To be fair, I couldn't make it thirty seconds into the video. I think most people can watch this and instantly remember when they were laughed at or taunted or ridiculed as children. And yes, the worst comment is the one with "your kids should go kill themselves" after her son had already committed suicide.
This video has had me fuming for the past twenty-four hours. I sent her a facebook message expressing my solidarity, and I hope she gets to tuck a little away. Obviously, from the donations that have come in, this story struck a chord with a lot of people internationally.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:45 AM
This is hardly unbelievable for me. While I haven't ever been tormented by a pack of children ala Super Troopers, anyone who has ever experienced being bullied by a group knows how mob mentality works. Especially when it involves children that aren't mentally or emotionally developed enough to understand the consequences at the time or at all.
So yeah, I'm with Ini. Put some fear into'em.
So yeah, I'm with Ini. Put some fear into'em.
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Holafernando Torres, on 20 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:
This made me feel like an old man... I am 42 years old, and I was trying to imagine what the consequences would have been for me and my friends had we done this as school kids.
First off, the school would have called my parents and asked for permission to give me licks which they would have gleefully provided. I would have spent a few weeks in detention, and I would have never thought about riding another bus again. I would be walking to school for the rest of the time I attended there.
Then, I would have gotten home to my parents... I probably to this day wouldn't be able to sit down, and I would still be grounded.
It is not in my character to do these things anyway, but if it was, the consequences would have been so monumental that I would have never crossed that line.
First off, the school would have called my parents and asked for permission to give me licks which they would have gleefully provided. I would have spent a few weeks in detention, and I would have never thought about riding another bus again. I would be walking to school for the rest of the time I attended there.
Then, I would have gotten home to my parents... I probably to this day wouldn't be able to sit down, and I would still be grounded.
It is not in my character to do these things anyway, but if it was, the consequences would have been so monumental that I would have never crossed that line.
Yeah I would have been in all sorts of trouble as well. I am not too much younger than you though.
We used to have an ex-army chap as a PE teacher, so after they abolished caning in my school. We had to run up the biggest frigging hill in the town every lunch time if we got in trouble, could be in pouring rain, freezing cold. Make the little feckers sweat some.
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