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[Dracarya]

I would like to stab those little fuckers. When did 'respect your elders' stop being a rule for kids?

I am absolutely fuming. These kids need to be arrested, thrown out of school, have the fear of God put into them. I generally don't agree with hitting children, but I wouldn't hesitate to slap every one of those cunts upside the head a few times. What I wonder is - WHY DID NO ONE SAY ANYTHING? Where was the bus driver when this was happening? I would have stopped the bus and thrown them all out into the street.

Eurgh.

[naz]

Call me cynical, but I'm not really surprised by what I know is commonplace behavior. People will complain that it's about "kids these days" or "American culture", or make it a class issue but this shit has been happening on every school bus in in every town in every country for eons and it exists primarily because of poor upbringing or mob mentality or both. The only things remarkable about this are the length of the tormenting, the fact that it was recorded, and the notable - and noble - response from the internet.

I also praise the victim for not reacting with violence or abusive language of her own. She's clearly someone who's been through a lot, and the way she held her composure throughout this torment is commendable in the extreme. She was asked in interviews afterwards why she didn't do anything or even report it to school authorities, and she said that it was the end of the school year and she knew that no one would really do anything about it (not knowing at the time that it had been uploaded to YouTube). I tend to believe her in this respect and again, call me cynical, but no way this would have registered on anyone's radar had it not been uploaded. The school wouldn't have given two shits if it was just a he-said/she-said thing.

I wish the best for this lady and hope she gets the apology that she well deserves. As for the kids... well, they'll get what they deserve too, presumably, but I don't expect any change in this type of behavior any time soon. There are untold hordes of kids and adults like these, and most of the time they have - and will - get away with it without consequence. Unless you believe in karma, which I do.

[Ser Robin Hill]

"Kids these days", has applied to every generation and keeps getting worse.  But don't ask their parents.  They think butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of their kids.

[Nukelavee]

I can remember watching a group of teens outside the printers I worked at do something similar one day, just insulting random people, including seniors, as they walked by.

And then Blackie walked by.  Blackie was this stocky happy go lucky old guy, pushing 80...

Who was a retired Regimental Sgt Major.

Out came his parade ground voice (I don't even remember what he said, honestly, it was something about stand down and shut up, boys!)...

I have never seen assholes broken so quickly.

[Serious Callers Only]

normal behaviour of a pack of homo sapiens

Edited by Serious Callers Only, 21 June 2012 - 09:14 AM.

[snookyrump]

Man I totally feel like roughing up some punks right now.

[Ser Robin Hill]

Nuke,

I wish I could have seen that.

[Balefont]

1) Middle school students are the absolute worst.  It is known.

2) As a parent I would be mortified.  (I didn't even try to watch the video.  I don't need the stress.)

3) Our school system would revoke their bus riding privileges for the remainder of the year and keep them on probation the following year.

[Skunkbelly]

Bale: Agreed.  Here too I think.  Buses are horrible places and I wish my children did not have to ride one.

We've had a few bus incidents. Last year, I got a phone call from the principal when Henry (7 at the time) dropped the f-bomb on the bus. I made him write a letter of apology to both the school principal and the bus driver. A month or so ago, Della gleefully informed me that "Josh" (a mean kid) wasn't allowed to ride the bus any more.  

As for the monitor,  why hasn't the school stressed that bus monitors are authority figures?   Here at least, the school transportation department maintains that bus rules are the same as classroom rules and bus drivers/monitors have the same authority as teachers. Every student has to sign a bus conduct agreement before they are allowed to ride the bus for the year,

Granted it doesn't always work. Also, I know that things tend to get a little lax at the end of the year.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

Skunkbelly,

Aren't you assuming there is good discipline in the school as well?

I hope these kids are sufficiently embarrased that they see what they did and never do it again.

[Sci-2]

Deathwalker, on 21 June 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

"Kids these days", has applied to every generation and keeps getting worse.  But don't ask their parents.  They think butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of their kids.

Yeah, I've seen this kind of thing across the board, in all kinds of communities, across all kinds of generations.

Our societies ignore or reward cruelty and sneer at compassion. Then when something like this happens, everyone loves it, fucking laps it up, because it shows how not-evil they are. It's morality of absence combined with what Tool describes in Vicarious: "I own the TV, because tragedy thrills me, whatever flavor, it happens to be like..."

[Skunkbelly]

Ser Scot A Ellison, on 21 June 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Skunkbelly,

Aren't you assuming there is good discipline in the school as well?

Scot: I guess I am and I probably should not.

[sologdin]

an ineffective bus monitor, unless her job duty is solely to be the target on the bus, in lieu of other students.

bullying is the wrong term.  oral invective with light battery.

[Ser Robin Hill]

She's a nice old lady, but totally unequipped to deal with kids like that.  Maybe retired Marine Drill Instructors would make better bus monitors.  Kids do whatever they think they can get away with.

[Gold Storm]

Ser Scot A Ellison, on 21 June 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Skunkbelly,

Aren't you assuming there is good discipline in the school as well?

I hope these kids are sufficiently embarrased that they see what they did and never do it again.

Hopefully, some will; however, a good chunk of them will say, "I was not as bad as {fill in the blank}." or "This other kid stared it, I was just there."

[Sci-2]

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a good chunk of them will say, "I was not as bad as {fill in the blank}." or "This other kid stared it, I was just there."

In 30 years, I suspect these are the kinds of kids who will be running for office.

[Ser Robin Hill]

I'm so glad I won't be around to see it.

[Howdyphillip]

naz, on 21 June 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

There are untold hordes of kids and adults like these, and most of the time they have - and will - get away with it without consequence. Unless you believe in karma, which I do.

Really nice post, even though it seems a bit on the cynical side. It is probably more pragmatic to hold these views then to believe that life is full of rainbows and sunshine. I still try to go through life expecting the best out of people for no other reason than it is far more personally fulfilling than having the mindset of expecting the worst.

One small note on karma... It is a Hindu belief that what you do in this life effects you in the next life. It is not about a person getting what is coming to them. For that, you can look at the Christian belief of reaping what you sew...

(I always point that out when I hear the word karma.)

[Nukelavee]

I'll see your Marine DI, and raise you Blackie.

Blackie trumps everything, but Teddy Rosevelt.  He's (I hope present tense is teh right one still) an amazing guy.  Served in both the Navy and Army, in WW2.  Left the Navy after having 3 corvettes sunk out from under him, 2 while he was in teh engine room.  Just a stumpy little stump of a man...always a smile and a wave for everybody.  And the ladies love him, the guy is seriously charming.

People, seniors, like that make me glad I do have the respect for them that I do, because I've had so many great conversations over teh years...

"Kids these days!" is a valid observation.  So is pointing out we were once "those damn kids!".  But the habit of disrespect accumulates, like mercury.  If your grandparents were slack with your parents...odds are you got away with lower expectations of manners... and your children will be even worse, unless you grew up at some point.

[imladolen]

I couldn't watch even a minute of that. It goes of for 10 minutes?!? WTF!!!!

Those kids all need there jaws broken, and expulsion from the school district.

And their parents should be jailed for raising shits.

Edited by imlad, 21 June 2012 - 01:33 PM.