StannisBamfatheon, on 02 July 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:
My bad I just hadn't seen any topics relating to Drogo/Dany and just how....well a little bothersome there situation was. It was one of only a handful of things in ASOIAF that I just really couldn't justify in my modern 21st century mind. I agree though with the overriding sentiment that Littlefinger's attraction to Sansa's (un)dead mother coupled with his newfound attraction for her makes the whole situation very icky. Somethings in the story I can't sequester as "oh well it's only GRRM" and I have to think their pretty odd. Fictional work shouldn't be seen as biographical allegory or anything but I do ponder just how much of weird guy GRRM can be to create some of this material.
I agree about Dany/Drogo. Martin has described it as a love story and I've never been comfortable with that. She was sold in to marriage and I don't see how it could be looked at any other way. But, I see the 21st century morals argument come up quite a bit.
hockema56, on 02 July 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:
Does Dany reach the age of 18 by book 5? I'm still imagining here as a 15-16 year old girl...
No, she started at 13 years of age. About three years have passed, making her around 16 or so at the end of Dance.
Reznak mo Reznak, on 02 July 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:
His most overt act was when he kissed her. I'm not convinced he is fully making a play for her. I think he has all the creepy feelings that people described, but he is choosing to focus on the game more than her. I think when he kissed her, it was only because he knew Lysa was watching, and knew how she would react.
Except that he has made her kiss him when no one is around to see it, more than once. He also makes her sit in his lap and has put his hands on her breast. What would you call that?
She has had sex with a grand total of two men her entire life, one of those men being her husband. She has every right to choose her own sexual partners. Female desire is just as valid as male desire. Dany is under absolutely zero obligation to return any form of affection from another man, regardless of how much they care for her. No woman is required to do so. A man's desire is not worth more than a woman's, to even imply that is the case is slut shaming.
Edited by Xray the Enforcer, 02 July 2012 - 07:22 PM.
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