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[mohamedm1]

Since when is Renly gay...? Is it just something HBO decided to change and why would they do it? Or was it mentioned in the books cause I don't recall?

[House Stargaryen]

Since the books started

He and Loras Tyrell shared some pretty intimate moments in AGOT. He's gay both in the books and the show.

[LampreyPie]

GRRM confirmed he is gay in the books, but it is only hinted at.

Examples (copy and pasted from random internet source):

Now sheathe your bloody sword, or I’ll take it from you and shove it up some place even Renly never found. Jaime to Loras

When the sun has set, no candle can replace it. Loras about Renly

Renly’s little rose? I doubt that. Oberyn about Loras

We had...we had prayed together that night. Loras about Renly

...I got Margaery. You’ll be pleased to know she came to me a maid.
In your bed she’s like to die that way. Renly & Stannis

And it relieved him {Mace} of the difficult task of trying to find lands and a bride for a third son, never easy, and doubly difficult in Ser Loras’s case. Petyr

[Melonica Stormborn]

The flamboyance and "rainbow guards" are telling signs. @LampreyPie's quoted passages are also very telling.

In A Storm of Swords, Ser Loras' bitterness about Lord Renly's death when he talked about it to Sansa was also suspect.

[KhaleesiDany]

LampreyPie, on 11 July 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

We had...we had prayed together that night. Loras about Renly

Oh man, that is the best one

OP, it went over my head in the books, too, except that when Sansa and Loras were talking I sort of suspected something. The Rainbow Guards never seemed gay to me I thought Renly was just . . . colorful.

[Melonica Stormborn]

I might have interpreted "rainbow guards" in gay pride undertones.

[Lannister Hamster]

Once you know and look for it in the books it's fairly obvious, a bit like Mel and Stannis sleeping together

[Bib Fortuna]

The great thing about Sansa's conversation with Loras is that she immediately assumes Loras is angry with her for bringing up the subject of him having to kill Robar Royce. But reading the subtext of the conversation leads the reader to realize Loras is upset about Renly's death instead.

[Crown]

George R. R. Martin has explicity said that the Rainbow Guard wasn't symbolizing Renly's homosexuality, it had something to do with the colors of the Seven and the Faith, I believe.

[mohamedm1]

Yeah I see it now. When I was reading it I considered the rainbow guards and his flamboyance just as a way to distinguish himself from his brothers. But I did tell that there was a strong relationship between Loras and Renly...just not that strong. More like best friends lol.

[DamnDirtyApe]

Crown, on 11 July 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

George R. R. Martin has explicity said that the Rainbow Guard wasn't symbolizing Renly's homosexuality, it had something to do with the colors of the Seven and the Faith, I believe.

Might have not been that way when he wrote it, but it sure as hell is now!  

--HBO

[Crown]

DamnDirtyApe, on 11 July 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Might have not been that way when he wrote it, but it sure as hell is now!  

--HBO

Haha! Here a quote from the wiki for those interested:

Quote

The Rainbow Guard is an organization created by Renly Baratheon to serve a similar purpose to the Kingsguard. Its members wear rainbow cloaks and have a rainbow coat of arms. This connects them to the Faith of the Seven (to whom the rainbow is a religious symbol). Each member is described as wearing armor of a single different color, with the group of seven together representing the seven-colored rainbow.

[Lady Snowcat]

Crown, on 11 July 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Haha! Here a quote from the wiki for those interested:

Thx for the wiki info. I was just about to reply on this but my answers arrived!

[KhaleesiDany]

red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple . . . white?