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Why did they feel the need to change so much in TV for Season 2?


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#1 Lady Arianne Martell

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM

- Making Dany harsh
- Robbs Volantine gf - OK WTF??!?!
- No ramsay?
- No reeds?

- SERIOUSLY

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:07 PM

Since this question is about the show, I'd suggest posting about this topic in the TV series section of the forums. I'm pretty sure that some similar threads have already been created. This thread will probably get moved or locked pretty quickly.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

I think you're in the wrong section here~

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- Making Dany harsh
I don't know what that means.
They changed the story I guess, cuz they want to see Dany in turmoil insted of chilling with Daxos in a litter. The writing was dreadfull though

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- Robbs Volantine gf - OK WTF??!?!
Robb's a mian character, he's not in the books. HBO loves sappy love stories. True innocent love is sweeter then a pity fuck and bastard brainwashed

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- No ramsay?
I don't know... I got 2 theories, the first is to give Rams more screen time in season 3-5 and the second is people aren't ready for the awsomeness of Snow and have soft stomachs when stories like Lady Hornwood are concerned

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- No reeds?
Everyone loves Osha. And if you got no Snow you don't really need the Reeds

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- SERIOUSLY
Wack show

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

- Making Dany harsh
- Robbs Volantine gf - OK WTF??!?!
- No ramsay?
- No reeds?

- SERIOUSLY

Before this gets locked, the roles of Ramsay and the Reeds have been confirmed for season 3.

I definitely had some issues with this season...nearly threw my remote at the TV several times.  I still like it though

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:14 PM

They'll add Reeds for the next season. To be honest they wouldn't have been of much help this season imo.
The only plots I didn't like were Arya's new story-line and Jon snow's dumbed down character.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:15 PM

Sorry totally forgot that there is a tv thread

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

Reeds moved to Season 3, as was Ramsay because well D&D really loved Dagmer and so really wanted to show case and enhance his character in the show at the expense of Ramsay/Reek. Also someone thought it would be a good idea to make the "who burnt Winterfell" a nice little cliffhanger

Creators don't believe in prophecy so they changed the HotU and eerie nature of Qarth and replaced it with what they did. Also they really wanted to use the line "WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!"

They loved the actor for Robb and so wanted to give him screentime. The only reason they put the Volantene chick in was because they read ADWD and had a bunch of new information on Volantis so they threw all of that in at the expense of the whole Westerling arc.

Edited by sillent, 13 July 2012 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:17 PM

The OP is asking about changes from the books to the TV series.

Are we supposed to do compare and contrast between the book and series in the book thread or the TV thread? Comparisons seem fair game on this forum.

It may be possible to winnow out which details are important and which are not, for instance, by noting what they leave out in the series. I know I'm looking for that when I watch.

Yipee, #1000!

Edited by Teal'c, 13 July 2012 - 06:17 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

What pissed me off the most was how they butchered Catelyn and Little Finger. They made them look less intelligent they are in the novels. Disliked Arya's ridiculous scenes with Tywin, I mean what was the point of it then the ridiculous notion of making Arya seem more baddass (sure she can be baddass, but not that baddass)They removed half of Sansa's scenes from the novels.

#11 Lady Arianne Martell

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:23 PM

Even on the TV Show, Sansa is hated ... :crying:

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:28 PM

View PostQueen Sansa Stark, on 13 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

What pissed me off the most was how they butchered Catelyn and Little Finger. They made them look less intelligent they are in the novels. Disliked Arya's ridiculous scenes with Tywin, I mean what was the point of it then the ridiculous notion of making Arya seem more baddass (sure she can be baddass, but not that baddass)They removed half of Sansa's scenes from the novels.
Throw in what they did to Jon and Jaime and I agree.

ETA: And Robb, Cersei, and Tyrion too.

Edited by Kittykatknits, 13 July 2012 - 06:29 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:29 PM

View PostQueen Sansa Stark, on 13 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

What pissed me off the most was how they butchered Catelyn and Little Finger. They made them look less intelligent they are in the novels. Disliked Arya's ridiculous scenes with Tywin, I mean what was the point of it then the ridiculous notion of making Arya seem more baddass (sure she can be baddass, but not that baddass)They removed half of Sansa's scenes from the novels.

I haven't seen season 2 yet, but from what I've heard, I got the impression she was less bad-ass. Or at least less stabby. I can't believe they took Weasel Soup AND tickling the Tickler away from her story. :bang:

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:36 PM

View PostDireHiker, on 13 July 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I haven't seen season 2 yet, but from what I've heard, I got the impression she was less bad-ass. Or at least less stabby. I can't believe they took Weasel Soup AND tickling the Tickler away from her story. :bang:

She was badass in a different way than the book character and it came across as quite silly in my opinion.

Staring down Tywin Lannister and uttering lines that are far too mature for her were her main achievements on the show.

My father died because of loyalty, for instance. How would tv Arya know that?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

View PostBran the Cute, on 13 July 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Staring down Tywin Lannister and uttering lines that are far too mature for her were her main achievements on the show.

My father died because of loyalty, for instance. How would tv Arya know that?

Could have been bravado, but I see your point.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:48 PM

View PostBran the Cute, on 13 July 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

She was badass in a different way than the book character and it came across as quite silly in my opinion.

Staring down Tywin Lannister and uttering lines that are far too mature for her were her main achievements on the show.

My father died because of loyalty, for instance. How would tv Arya know that?
It was several episodes of conversation with Tywin that ultimately went nowhere. Her character development basically stopped after the fourth episode or so of the season. Arya called herself the ghost of harrenhal, sure didn't seem that way in the show.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:48 PM

Because they wanted to make it better. What's wrong with that?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

View PostManyFacedOne, on 13 July 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Because they wanted to make it better. What's wrong with that?
Except they didn't, from the little I saw?

Except, as a book fan, I want almost everything to be the same, like season 1!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:59 PM

I love book Arya. She is my number two.They screwed up season two real bad! I think they could have kept to the books more closely rather than adding the things they did add. I understand it's two different mediums but dammit, stop it. I appreciate other purists. There was nothing wrong with the book storylines why change it? I know D&D work with GRRM and have inside info, but I think that they missing quite a few of the characters completely. By missing I mean they don't seem like they really understand them that well. It's like they talk to him but they don't really listen and think their ideas are better......enough of my rant I just hope season three can make up for the atrocious display that was season two.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:08 PM

View PostLady Arianne Martell, on 13 July 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

from the little I saw?

Save yourself some pain and see no more than that little.