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GRRM: "Book 6 of Ice & Fire won't be published until 2014


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#1 tyrions sliced nose

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:38 PM

article is in spanish but still this is quite good news IMO. Dance came out in 2011 and if winds comes out in 2014 thats only 3 years wait which isnt too shabby.

http://www.abc.es/20...1207181742.html

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:43 PM

2014 sounds good to me, if GRRM is able to meet that deadline. I can wait that long. I was expecting it to come out in 2016 or later.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

In this interview, he also says that he has 200 MS pages written.

I wonder though, is this more or less what he had in 2011 when he finished his work on ADWD.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:00 PM

2014 would be excellent if he can meet the deadline.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:01 PM

In this interview, he also says that he has 200 MS pages written.

I wonder though, is this more or less what he had in 2011 when he finished his work on ADWD.


But even if you knew that, you wouldn't necessarily know how much was first draft and how much was final, how much had been kept and how much thrown away, how much might yet have to be thrown away or rewritten as the process of writing progresses, or the answers to a dozen other relevant questions.

Never try to read the entrails of someone else's writing progress on inadequate information. It'll only drive you mad and it won't help you predict the release date, which won't help with the wait anyway. Take it from one who knows. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:10 PM

George doesn't really say it's coming in 2014. He indicates that it won't be this year, it won't be next year, but he hopes that 2014 could happen. It's not a deadline, it's a hope.

At the same round table, he indicates that he has about 200 pages more-or-less in final form, but also about 200 pages in partial form, which none of the Spanish media seem to be noting.

You can watch the round table interview (use headphones, audio is quite low) at the SSM collection

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:10 PM

I would imagine, given previous comments and his general reluctance to give specific dates, that what he actually said was more like "2014 or later/at the earliest." Not that I wouldn't love to see the book in 2014, and it's still at least possible, but I wouldn't read too much into this.

Or, what Ran said while I was typing. I've got to stop fiddling with word choices...

Edited by Brendan Moody, 20 July 2012 - 03:11 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:12 PM

Technically, it says that the book won't come out before 2014, which doesn't mean it'll come out that year... Although I do hope so!

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:12 PM

Well, he doesn't really says it comes out in 2014, only that it won't be before that. I don't think any of us expected something different anyway, but I do sincerely hope it ends up being 2014, though, especially if it's after the World Cup - for I doubt anyone will be able to read anything during that event here in Brazil, even if you don't like the sport, like me.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

2014 is the absolute latest it can come out for TV show purposes, so it makes sense that is what he is shooting for.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

I see how he can get Winds of Winter out before the show catches up to where it needs to film that material, but it seems literally impossible to me at this point for him to get A Dream of Spring out before the show catches up to that. Not in a mean way, or a complaining way, I just honestly don't see how there is any possibility of it happening.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

it depends on how your seeing the series going if you go on a year/season per published volume the series that lines up with aDwD may well not be aired until 2016 ( a storm of swords was released in 2 volumes here in the uk) and that would be depending on if the tv series splits aDwD into 2 series (the book was released in 2 volumes in the uk as well) thus stretching out the current publication to series span up to 2017, not that i'm saying i will happily wait until then for the next book, i'm just saying that GRRM is not really in a massive rush to get tWoW finished by 2014 and as he's mis judged publication dates in the past i'm not going to be getting my hopes up on a 2014 release date, as much as this saddens me.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:36 PM

Jolene I would agree we might have an issue because no way do I see AFFC being aired on its own.
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#14 Mark Antony

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

2014 would be spectacular imo, I hope he can do it.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:32 PM

Jolene I would agree we might have an issue because no way do I see AFFC being aired on its own.
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ACOK 2012
ASTOS part 1 2013
ASTOS part 2/AFFC 2014
AFFC/ADWD 2015
ADWD 2016


This is what I see too, except I'd say AFFC/ADWD 2015, AFFC/ADWD 2016. And that's airdates - they need to start producing it 6 months earlier and writing the scripts/breaking down the storylines earlier than that.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:46 PM

and if he cant reach the deadline they can always do a prequel season or two about Robert's rebellion and the first 14 years of his rule, it COULD be great if they treated it right. Both of the directors have shown interest in altering the story line slightly, so maybe a loose history could make for a great season or two...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

I've always felt like Summer of 2014 would be the best-case-scenario, and I'll be pretty tickled if we get it by then.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:19 PM

I just can not see a tv show taking time off from its main storylines to do some kind of prequel season about events 17-20 years earlier. Has any tv show in history ever done anything like that?

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#19 The King of Worms

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:03 PM

Technically, it says that the book won't come out before 2014, which doesn't mean it'll come out that year... Although I do hope so!

All misdirection and lies...
The book will come out next year... shocking everyone!...

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

I just can not see a tv show taking time off from its main storylines to do some kind of prequel season about events 17-20 years earlier. Has any tv show in history ever done anything like that?


Spartacus blood and sand. But only because the lead character died after series one