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Will any stark die in TWOW?


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#1 sumant30

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:30 PM

Guys what do you think will GRRM give one more stark to a sword??

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:55 AM

depends what u mean by Stark.  I'd wager on uncatlyn dying for good.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:57 AM

View Postaryagonnakill, on 28 July 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

depends what u mean by Stark.  I'd wager on uncatlyn dying for good.

She is already dead isn't she, what i mean is out of
1>Bran
2>Rickon
3>Sansa
4>Arya

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 08:20 AM

I predict WoW will be the most bloody book in the series. DWD and FFC had no major deaths (Jon Snow was just a cheap cliffhanger imo) so I assume it was just the calm before the storm...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:25 AM

I don't think there are enough Starks to kill in the next book. But Lannisters - I see a few more of these biting the dust.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:32 AM

I dont think any of them cant die as i dont see any of them being near enough to the end of their character development. If one was to bite the dust i would probably say Rickon as hes relatively unknown, not exactly integral to the main plots and not a POV character. I dont think he will die but he seems the most likely

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:17 PM

Bran could be a possibility, that is if he wargs into another being right before he dies. This has been one of the major predictions about Jon's death in DwD so if it were to happen to any other Stark then Bran seems the mot likely.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:49 PM

I doubt it. I think they've all got a long way to go before being killed off, with the possible exception of Rickon.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

I don't think so. They each have a role to play if they have survived this long, and until now it was just character developement so they're gonna do sth. One or two might die in ADoS but I don't think in TWoW we're gonna see any Stark deaths. Or maybe even they won't die in ADoS, but rather the 8th book.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:53 PM

Personally I don't think Arya will be alive at the story's end.  Whether this occurs in book 6 or 7, or at all, remains to be seen.  But, then again, I don't expect Jon, Tyrion, or Dany to survive either.  And I want the absolute last page of A Dream of Spring, its entire epilogue in fact, to be of Bran sitting alone in a cave with a weirwood growing into him as he gazes through Winterfell's tree watching his parents and siblings all together again at some point in the past.  Even Theon standing there with them.  And Catelyn being stern toward Jon, Ned being firm but loving, Arya being wild, Sansa a perfect lady, etc.  Bran pulls out of the vision and sits there staring into the darkness, hearing water moving off in the distance, and thinks about how he so wanted to be a knight when he was younger.  The end.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

I don't really think any of them will die in the 6th book. But if I were to pick one I think potentially Bran. Somehow in connection to the others. Maybe to make them more powerful in some way? I don't think it will happen. But if I had to pick one...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:22 PM

View PostJohn Reynolds, on 28 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Personally I don't think Arya will be alive at the story's end.  Whether this occurs in book 6 or 7, or at all, remains to be seen.  But, then again, I don't expect Jon, Tyrion, or Dany to survive either.  And I want the absolute last page of A Dream of Spring, its entire epilogue in fact, to be of Bran sitting alone in a cave with a weirwood growing into him as he gazes through Winterfell's tree watching his parents and siblings all together again at some point in the past.  Even Theon standing there with them.  And Catelyn being stern toward Jon, Ned being firm but loving, Arya being wild, Sansa a perfect lady, etc.  Bran pulls out of the vision and sits there staring into the darkness, hearing water moving off in the distance, and thinks about how he so wanted to be a knight when he was younger.  The end.

I actually see what you mean with Arya being a possibility, but I think her part is too important for her to die in WoW. If she is killed it will most likely be in DoS and towards the end of the book. Also, that epilogue made me sad.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostLady Piper, on 28 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

I don't really think any of them will die in the 6th book. But if I were to pick one I think potentially Bran. Somehow in connection to the others. Maybe to make them more powerful in some way? I don't think it will happen. But if I had to pick one...
Bran shall surely outlive them all:

“Only one man in a thousand is born a skinchanger,” Lord Brynden said one day, after Bran had learned to fly, “and only one skinchanger in a thousand can be a greenseer.”


“I thought the greenseers were the wizards of the children,” Bran said. “The singers, I mean.”


“In a sense. Those you call the children of the forest have eyes as golden as the sun, but once in a great while one is born amongst them with eyes as red as blood, or green as the moss on a tree in the heart of the forest. By these signs do the gods mark those they have chosen to receive the gift. The chosen ones are not robust, and their quick years upon the earth are few, for every song must have its balance. But once inside the wood they linger long indeed. A thousand eyes, a hundred skins, wisdom deep as the roots of ancient trees. Greenseers.”



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Posted 28 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

Maybe Rickon because he's too young to be of any real use, he hasn't got a POV, and because he was kinda feral the last time we saw him - and that's not a good personality for the potential lord of Winterfell...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:03 PM

To be totally frank...I am teetering on the edge with respect to the series.  If, as one bright light suggested here, all of the Starks with the exception of Bran are killed off and poor Bran is left growing into a tree, I will feel as though I have wasted my time reading the damn book.  The thing that drew me to the series to begin with was the human-ness of the characters.  There are readers who are all for embracing madness,  revelling in a never ending blood bath, where all that counts is the game and where the most corrupt win - The reason so many people who were normally not fantasy fans became "hooked"  is precisely because of the deeply human element.  Kill off all the Starks and you will have lost the last shred of  any moral victory.  And incidentally GRRM will have lost me and many, many others.    If the series is simply about a headlong rush into madness and exploiting every strange, weird and unexpected plot device simply for being "different", then I throw my hands up in despair.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:21 PM

View PostHerta, on 28 July 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

To be totally frank...I am teetering on the edge with respect to the series.  If, as one bright light suggested here, all of the Starks with the exception of Bran are killed off and poor Bran is left growing into a tree, I will feel as though I have wasted my time reading the damn book.  
All men must die. In The Lord of the Rings, Aragorn, Arwen, Pippin, Merry, Rosie Cotton, Boromir, Faramir, Denethor, Théoden, Éowyn, and Éomer all have deaths that are noted in the book.  Only Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam — and probably Gimli — have completely off-screen deaths, but they certainly do die, as Tolkien noted in one of his letters to a confused reader. Gandalf died, but he got better. The only ones that don’t die are Elrond, Celeborn, Galadriel, and Legolas. But they are not men, so theirs is a different destiny.

All men must die.  If the fact that Martin shows this inescapable doom that awaits all of his characters, and all of his readers too, is something that plunges you into despair, then so be it. That’s realism for you: all men must die.

Edited by CrypticWeirwood, 28 July 2012 - 09:33 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:26 PM

View PostJohn Reynolds, on 28 July 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Personally I don't think Arya will be alive at the story's end.  Whether this occurs in book 6 or 7, or at all, remains to be seen.  But, then again, I don't expect Jon, Tyrion, or Dany to survive either.  And I want the absolute last page of A Dream of Spring, its entire epilogue in fact, to be of Bran sitting alone in a cave with a weirwood growing into him as he gazes through Winterfell's tree watching his parents and siblings all together again at some point in the past.  Even Theon standing there with them.  And Catelyn being stern toward Jon, Ned being firm but loving, Arya being wild, Sansa a perfect lady, etc.  Bran pulls out of the vision and sits there staring into the darkness, hearing water moving off in the distance, and thinks about how he so wanted to be a knight when he was younger.  The end.
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Edited by Lady_Sansa, 28 July 2012 - 09:27 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:30 PM

Oh, I hope not.

And please, I don't want Arya to go. Her blindness that I felt could not be permanent brought me close to tears. I think things would break if I were to read an Arya death scene... though I have this awful feeling...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

View Postjalepenohitchhiker, on 28 July 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

Also, that epilogue made me sad.

It's bittersweet and reunites the Stark family for the readers despite whatever the fates of the remaining members may be.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

I don't think any Starks will die in TWOW. I think George has killed off enough Starks for one book series! (not to mention Jon's situation at the moment)

But I do think theres a good chance more will die in the next book after TWOW, but that is still a long time away sadly :(