Who's suitable for the Iron Throne ? [Spoilers]
Posted 10 August 2012 - 12:56 PM
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Dany- Hell to the nah. She knows absolutely nothing of Westeros, it's people, it's traditions etc. She expects people to bow to her as soon as she arrives based on their previous loyalties alone. Not gonna happen. She just isn't familiar enough with the culture.
And while it may be a bit early, I feel Sansa has the potential to patch things up. She's learning the ways of politics from LF, yet she has a kind heart. I'd think with the help of some good advisers, she could be the queen that Cersei never was.
Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:25 PM
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:45 PM
he'll be the King, he's the prince who was promised
and the Targs will be rulers again, Dany will be his Queen, and Jon will always be a man of the NW, I don't think he'll be a king, Jon likes the wall, he feels quite well there
and don't say that if he's a Targ he will leave the wall, he has royal blood, but some royal blood can stay at the wall, like Maester Aemon for example
so my bet is Aegon, he's from the blood who forged the iron throne, he's the new conqueor, maybe Aegon the Conqueor reborn
Posted 10 August 2012 - 01:51 PM
Stannis is the clear answer here. sure, he's not well liked now, but he is earning his support and respect the right way- by his actions defending the realm and by providing justice against very long odds. He does what no other contender has done or appears to plan to do. I would contend that he has the most loyal supporters and he's earning more, not through the threat of burning or through gold (yet), but through his heroic actions and doing what's right. Underdogs FTW
The way you take a throne and keep it is by earning it, not with "fire and blood" or someone scheming your way into it. IMO of course.
Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:02 PM
Everyone else is a nut job. Especially Danny. She hasn't learned anything. In fact, she's becoming more and more like her father. I guess when The Gods flipped the coin for Danny, it landed on the insane side.
And we haven't really seen a lot of Aegon. From what we know so far, he's just a pawn of Varys and Illyrio. And he's easy to manipulate, as Tyrion convinced him to lauch his invasion after beating him in a game of cyvasse. Doesn't really look like leadership material so far...
Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:04 PM
Since the series started, in four books since he was introduced, he has not won over a single ally on his own merits. Some of Renly's men turned to him because they had no other option. Jon has helped him because of his hatred of the Lannisters (that is made clear by his thoughts before he gives his advice to Stannis about not going after the Dreadfort and making use of the mountain clans). The Mountain Clans help him because of fake Arya and wanting to take Winterfell from the Boltons. Manderlay MAY help him because of Rickon. There is no one who supports him because they actually want him to be King except his wife, her men, Melisandre, and Davos. And they always supported him, so he didn't win them over. The mountain men ridicule his actual loyalists as they die on the march. So even the few people who have been loyal to him all along are the ones he is now losing. The readers love him, but the people of Westeros just don't. He is never going to rule.
I get why people admire him. He is determined, and he is technically the person with the best claim, if you are looking strictly in terms of Robert's legal successor. But there are just so many signs - his vision of the king consumed by his own crown, Donal Noye's description of him as not the "true steel," the clear fakeness of Lightbringer, the fact that his biggest/most loyal supporter (Melisandre) is founding her support on a false belief that he is Azor Ahai which will inevitably be exposed, even his lack of an appropriate heir - they are all spelling out that he will not make it to the end.
Edited by Jolene Brown, 10 August 2012 - 02:10 PM.
Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:08 PM
do you think people will change their faith to a god that belong across the narrow sea
people called him Red Demon, and what Melisandre gains with that, do you stop to think if she's helping him just for free? or she's expecting something in return?
do you think it's just that AA stuff?
I think she has some other purpose, she wants power, I can see it
Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:10 PM
Posted 10 August 2012 - 02:17 PM
It was a game of interest, not duty
When Robert was king, the NW was asking for help, and I didn't see Stannis caring about it
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