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#1 Sitian Zhang

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:35 PM

I know that everyone here is in love with the work of GRRM because well...you're all here. Anyhow, despite his literary prowess, ASOIF is such a massive detailed work that there must be mistakes in the details. For example in AGOT, in the first Catelyn, Ned mentions that the last time he saw Tommen, he was at "the Lannister woman's tit". Tommen was then seven. In a later Ned chapter, Ned states that he had not seen Robert in 9 years. I doubt that Ned would see Cersei without Robert being around. Also, considering the significance of these times, I doubt it was caused by a character's memory lapse. So, I suppose it must be an author's mistake. Any others that you guys can think of?

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

GRRM fails to mention Hot Pies' radiant purple eyes and flowing silvery hair, despite the fact that it's quite obvious that Hot Pie is a secret Targ.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:49 PM

I know that everyone here is in love with the work of GRRM because well...you're all here. Anyhow, despite his literary prowess, ASOIF is such a massive detailed work that there must be mistakes in the details. For example in AGOT, in the first Catelyn, Ned mentions that the last time he saw Tommen, he was at "the Lannister woman's tit". Tommen was then seven. In a later Ned chapter, Ned states that he had not seen Robert in 9 years. I doubt that Ned would see Cersei without Robert being around. Also, considering the significance of these times, I doubt it was caused by a character's memory lapse. So, I suppose it must be an author's mistake. Any others that you guys can think of?


maybe Robert had a cold....

#4 A Bear covered in Fluff

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:51 PM

GRRM also mentioned that he prefered to make the children start off older because of the growth they have to do (5 year gap) sort of thing.
But you're going to pick on that little detail? or are you asking us to point out other inconsistencies?

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:54 PM

I believe that the general explaination/excuse for this "blooper" is that perhaps Ned went to Riverrun to visit his in-laws and on the way he ran into Cersei who was travelling with her children to or from Casterly Rock. Something like that anyway. I don't really see it as a big deal. We don't get a detailed inventory of every action every character has ever done. It is entirely possible that Ned ran into Cersei and not Robert at some stage. Use your imagination.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

the guy is just making fun of the little things like gender changin' horses and that stuff.

no need for going all berserk on the poor guy.

Edited by AsoiafFTW!, 12 August 2012 - 06:28 PM.


#7 Daena the Defiant

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

Renly's eyes go from green to blue. Also, when Joffrey sends out the Westerosi equivalent of spam mail - a massive volley of summonses to court to pledge fealty to the new king, he summons all the notables (ncluding Lady Whent of Harrenhal) and their heirs but puzzlingly Prince Doran and "all his sons."

Edited by Daena the Defiant, 12 August 2012 - 06:35 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:40 PM

He started the story about some random Ice-like creatures and then never mentions them again. Strange.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

IIRC Cercei addressed to Lancel once as her nephew instead of a cousin...

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:08 PM

the badge of office for Hand of the king changes to a chain of golden hands with no explanation whatsoever

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:26 PM

After the Blackwater, Davos advises Stannis against taking revenge on Crackclaw Isle by "raping their WINDOWS"

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 07:34 PM

Continuity is a bitch, and so is proof-reading.

You would think that the publishers would be extra careful with very popular books because it's certain there will be an online community to pick out every single inconsistency.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:27 PM

After the Blackwater, Davos advises Stannis against taking revenge on Crackclaw Isle by "raping their WINDOWS"

Hahaha, that would be less vengeful and more disturbing for those poor small folk of that island

#14 Kobayashi Maru

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 11:22 PM

the badge of office for Hand of the king changes to a chain of golden hands with no explanation whatsoever


Well you can't strangle a prostitute with a badge.

Edited by Kobayashi Maru, 12 August 2012 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:09 AM

Also, when Joffrey sends out the Westerosi equivalent of spam mail - a massive volley of summonses to court to pledge fealty to the new king, he summons all the notables (ncluding Lady Whent of Harrenhal) and their heirs but puzzlingly Prince Doran and "all his sons."


Doran has at least two sons. Are we sure none of the children at the Water Gardens are his bastard sons? Is Joffrey?
The rest of this is, I thnk, just showing the arrogance/ignorance of the Lannisters - women don't count for them, so they don't even think about counting them for the Martells, despite the cultural differences.

the badge of office for Hand of the king changes to a chain of golden hands with no explanation whatsoever


Different Hand, different Badge.

Edited by corbon, 13 August 2012 - 03:10 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:24 AM

IIRC Cercei addressed to Lancel once as her nephew instead of a cousin...

Well given the Lannister's breeding practices anythings possible

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:37 AM

Continuity is a bitch, and so is proof-reading.

You would think that the publishers would be extra careful with very popular books because it's certain there will be an online community to pick out every single inconsistency.


Yeah, but at the same I time I bet they're eager to get the books out and rake in the money those fans spend on them...

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:56 AM

In one of Sansa chapters (GoT page 745), when they come for her after Ned's execution, Meryn Trant is described as having a "tall helm with a golden sunburst crest". Where did the sunburst crest come from? It is certainly not his house sigil, hard as that may be to fit on a helmet, and IIRC it doesnt get mentioned anywhere else then here. Was it a mistake from Martin? Did he intend to have Trant originate from Dorne, which might explain the sun, and later had a change of heart? Was it just for the decorative aspect, which doesnt really suit the Kingsguard..

Edited by Grip, 13 August 2012 - 04:01 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:16 AM

Not a blooper, but I privately view A Song of Ice and Fire as an example of Alliteration Gone Mad.

The amount of alliteration in character names, place names, event names and general dialogue and prose is mind blowing.

It seems to be a pet technique of Martin's that he uses for effect, but hell, I've never seen it used so liberally.

Edited by Free Northman, 13 August 2012 - 04:16 AM.


#20 Jayce

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:43 AM

IIRC Cercei addressed to Lancel once as her nephew instead of a cousin...


People quite often make this kind of mistake IRL, a book character could also do such a thing.