Mladen Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just that. What do you think will he ever find out the truth? And of course, what would his reaction be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajea Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I thought he'd find out when he returned to King's Landing, but he didn't.I have a feeling they will just sweep the whole Arya/Tywin/Littlefinger thing under the rug. The Littlefinger thing was there to add some intensity, but they left it ambiguous enough that they can just say he didn't realise who she was, and then they never need to follow up on it.Pretty lazy to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I believe he will find out and the the hell will broke out, Cersei and Tyrion will be in serious trubble, Cersei because she is to blame and Tyrion because it is Tywins hobby to blame him for everything that went wrong. IMO every change and add scence in the series has a meaning, like the whorebeating scence will likely replace Sansas conversation with the QOT and they cut out willas. So IMO there will be some aftermath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord commander_Snow Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 he doesn't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I believe he will find out and the the hell will broke out, Cersei and Tyrion will be in serious trubble, Cersei because she is to blame and Tyrion because it is Tywins hobby to blame him for everything that went wrong. IMO every change and add scence in the series has a meaning, like the whorebeating scence will likely replace Sansas conversation with the QOT and they cut out willas. So IMO there will be some aftermath Well, Tyrion was also to be Tywinn's eyes and ears at KL so why did he not inform him of Arya disappearance? Ros is already release and showed in her scene of masking over bruises. There has to be Sansa and Maergery scene, too important. They be more apt to possibly change location to bypass Butterbumps. We never see willias so I don't know why to cut it. Unless the show believes they must show a character if they are mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Well, Tyrion was also to be Tywinn's eyes and ears at KL so why did he not inform him of Arya disappearance?Ros is already release and showed in her scene of masking over bruises. There has to be Sansa and Maergery scene, too important. They be more apt to possibly change location to bypass Butterbumps. We never see willias so I don't know why to cut it. Unless the show believes they must show a character if they are mention.The scene isn't so important, I'm sure they find a reason for Tywin for the wedding without Willas, another Tyrell is just to much and would only lead to excessive Sansa Willas shipping, they already destroy San/San why not more. And they let out the sexuel component of Sansas beating nearly entirly, so a interrogation of Ros, could be more effectiv and would give the Tyrells a better or more urgent reason for there actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The scene isn't so important, I'm sure they find a reason for Tywin for the wedding without Willas, another Tyrell is just to much and would only lead to excessive Sansa Willas shipping, they already destroy San/San why not more. And they let out the sexuel component of Sansas beating nearly entirly, so a interrogation of Ros, could be more effectiv and would give the Tyrells a better or more urgent reason for there actions The audience will want Sansa to meet Margaery. It can be mention and by next episode you can have the "wedding". If you want to play out a seen it can be at the end. I do not think you need to do too much. People do want Sansa to meet Margaery though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think he sensed it but didnt act upon it for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I thought he'd find out when he returned to King's Landing, but he didn't.When he returned to KL he has only two lines , one in E9 and one in E10... no conversations with anyone.The story was different in the books , so no source there.As someone said he may have known and had his reasons for not doing anything. Maybe he thought that Arya could not escape Harenhal.Maybe he knew that Cat seems to have thought that both Arya and Sansa were at KL and that was all the motivation she needed for letting Jamie go.or maybe LF will tell him or not tell him, that he saw her when he was there.Actually both George and the show do odd things about spies and raven messages ... LF and Varys seem to have informants aplenty , and a few show up spying for the houses but not as many as one would think in a war/political situation...in fact if information gets around so fast , some crucial info does not , which seems a narrative hole to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 When he returned to KL he has only two lines , one in E9 and one in E10... no conversations with anyone.The story was different in the books , so no source there.As someone said he may have known and had his reasons for not doing anything. Maybe he thought that Arya could not escape Harenhal.Maybe he knew that Cat seems to have thought that both Arya and Sansa were at KL and that was all the motivation she needed for letting Jamie go.or maybe LF will tell him or not tell him, that he saw her when he was there.He wouldn't let a valuable hostage stay with Clegane and if he find out LF knew, LF gona have a bad time :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Tywin had never met Arya before Harrenhall, so would have no reason to recognise her. I think the LF stuff was just there to create tension.I wouldn't have been too surprised if Tywin had pieced it all together when he discovers that Arya isn't in KL; but I'm not fussed either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Nah, it'll just be completely ignored from now on, just like all the other bits of cheap shock and suspense D+D put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I believe he will find out and the the hell will broke out, Cersei and Tyrion will be in serious trubble, Cersei because she is to blame and Tyrion because it is Tywins hobby to blame him for everything that went wrong. IMO every change and add scence in the series has a meaning, like the whorebeating scence will likely replace Sansas conversation with the QOT and they cut out willas. So IMO there will be some aftermathHow will the whorebeating scene replace Sansa conversation with Margaery and the QOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 How will the whorebeating scene replace Sansa conversation with Margaery and the QOT?The QoT interrogated Sansa about Joffreys behavior towards women, IMO she will interrogate Ros instead. And up to now D&D destroy all possible pairings for Sansa except Tyrion/Sansa, so they might left out Willas as well, so the conversation would be pointless. Maybe it just me, who thinks the changes have more purpose than just adding nudity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princethomas Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The Willas thing isn't important, but the scene where she reluctantly tells the QoT and Marg about Joffrey is great. And they've gone so far in showing how Sansa is unwilling to say anything bad about Joffrey. They have built that up so well that when she finally spills the beans it will be a very powerful thing.Besides, the could have cast anyone as the QoT. The cast Diana Rigg though. Thats one of her best moments in the book. They aren't going to put her in their with Ros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masamune Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think he sensed it but didnt act upon it for some reasonBecause he and Arya are BFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The QoT interrogated Sansa about Joffreys behavior towards women, IMO she will interrogate Ros instead. And up to now D&D destroy all possible pairings for Sansa except Tyrion/Sansa, so they might left out Willas as well, so the conversation would be pointless. Maybe it just me, who thinks the changes have more purpose than just adding nudityI don't think that D+D were deliberately getting ridding of all possible pairings apart from Sansa and Tyrion. It's just a lot happened in KL in COK and something had to give. Sansa's arc was less important than Tyrion's so there wasn't so much Sansan as in the books.I actually think that S3 will be very Sansa-centric with much of the KL arc revolving around the different factions manipulating her. The plot to marry her off to Willas is part of that and I actually think it'll be expanded upon with some private Margaery/QOT scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 He wouldn't let a valuable hostage stay with Clegane and if he find out LF knew, LF gona have a bad time :devil:Yeah, the whole deal with the Mountain just didn't work, I don't know how they are going to work this in S3 ... I hope they fix it.As to the Arya thing, I think D and D worked out the problem of Arya's story at Harrenhal just fine (I disagree with the moderators take here)....but as to it's relation to Tywin , maybe they will let it go, but me thinks not.And mixing in LF that seems there too, I don't know how all that will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWarrior Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 LF might be able to tell Sansa that he saw Arya alive at Harrenhal. Not that I think Sansa cares much.....she does not seem to think about Arya much at all but that could be because she is just trying to survive day to day and can't go beyond that.That is a deviation from the books that does not both me, but I don't think it will involve Tywin in the end. I don't think he will ever know his cupbearer was Arya Stark.And I think since they cast Diana Rigg as the QOT no scenes will be elminated that involve her. Also, they need to show her actions in the Purple Wedding and what led up to those actions. So I don't see the Sansa-Margaery-QOT scene being scrapped. I am waiting for it but can do without butterbumps and his noisy rendition of the Bear and the Maiden Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 On Arya, I can see a couple routes be done. I think Tywinn did not know when he was at Harrenhall. I don't see him just dismissing the fact that Arya is missing and their is a high-born northern girl in disguise. She is important to get back Jaime. Tyrion simply did not tell him is what I am going now. Tywinn can either ask for ravens to be sent upon discovering and just close it their. Harrenhall could be taken over by this point by the Tully's and add a little unkown with the chaos of the event. Tywinn can just be angry with Tyrion and Cersei as mention prior. Just don't see as a free-floating loose end never to be mention again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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