just want to give my view really on how i thing the series will end and the fate of some of our loved charcters. love a good discussion so feel free to poke holes. since i began reading the series i have made correct predictions, some surprisingly so. so below are my future predictions.
Jon Snow.
R+L=J, clearly true, no point in going over old ground, lyanna in a bed of blood says it all. At the end of 'Dance' jon was stabbed 3 times (not 4, the first was a graze/slice) and from Brans vision earlier in the series about Jon being pale and lifeless, and melisandre vision of jon with his own face, the ghosts then back to jon, resembeles Brans comatose state in GOT. forget all this un-jon rubbish, jon is in a coma, saved from further attacks from any wildlings in the courtyard, wun wun and queens men. many characters have survived bad wounds in the series and jon will survive this.
Furthermore he is, after recovering, Azor Ahai, reborn. stars bleed = queens man killed by wunwun, he has stars on his cloak, salt = bowen marsh tears. mels vision, where she looks for Azor and see's only Snow. Snow spelt with a capital 'S' means a name, this can only mean Jon. she doea not realise it yet is all. jon also had a dream of which he is holding a burning sword. there are further points to support theory but i think this says it all.
Danaerys Targaryan
I beleive Dany has been held in essos for a while, because GRRM clearly has this vision of what dany will ultimatly acheive and it can only happen at the end. a bit annoying, sure, but id rather a good end than to finish with a whimper. lets start with the vision of the three husbands the first is drogo, the second i beleive is Victarion, the mount to dread, who wouldnt dread him? and the third is Jon, the one to love. you cant count loraq. he is nothing but a pawn in the game but ill get on to him and harpys later. Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars (drogo and consumation of marrige). A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright on his dead face, gray lips smiling sadly ((grey and smiling, grey + joy) this is victarion)). A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with. (Jon).
Dany i beleive will take control of the khalasar she met at end of Dance, most likely roasting the Kahl. after re-appearing at mereen with the khalasar, the iron fleet and tyrions sellswords will have cut through half the rebels and dany will finish them. dont forget, dany is also ill from drinking dodgy water so this is unclear. she will marry victarion after his proposal (he wont 'take' her after seeing her power but he will kill loraq). she will marry him for the fleet but as victarion takes a wound in battle, he wont die but becomes un-victarion (hate the un-phrase but we all know what it means) because of the magic in his system so to speak from his red preist. and he will become the dead corpse on prow of ship, smiling beacuse he got one over on euron but sadly because he knows what he is.
Jamie, brienne, cersei, thommen, mycrella, sandor, mountain.
jamie will try and persuade cat that he genuinly tried to rescue sansa and in all this not be killed but taken prisoner for a while, thats why we have not heard from him.
cersei is about to have a trial by battle, thommen will be killed in this battle accidentally but gregor will win. cersei will be distraught but declair mycrella Queen. cersei will somehow get whiff of sansa being at the eyrie and send gregor there to kill her.(littlefinger will play a part in all this, maybe fearfull that sansa is becoming too smart). they will chase him down and aprehend him at the eyrie. or cat will hear of sansa being at the eyrie, send jamie and brienne to get her and as they turn up the monstor does. brienne dies and jamie finds out that gregor was all cerseis doing. the hound turns up (making brans vision come true).One shadow was as dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound (the hound) or as a backup theory, brienne is wearing the hounds helm)). Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful (Jamie). Over them both loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood (gregory the freak). gregor i beleive will get pulled out the moon door and the hound will go with him.
jamie heads to kings landing and become the valonqor. cersei stabs him during the strangling and they leave the world together. as mycrella must die before cersei (maggy the frog vision), i think she will be murdered maybe even by cersei herself. ( a lot of the vision has come true is of cerseis own doing.)
arya.
is hired by littlefinger to kill sansa. he hates that sansa has maybe thwarted him and outsmarted him. she has declared herself sansa stark to lords in eyrie and decides to say she wants to marry sweetrobin as she has to protect him, as littlefinger has more or less said the sickly little boy will die one way or another. littlefinnger will be kept around as the full details of him will not be announced by her such as killing lysa as it will implicate her, so littlefinger still has room for scheming. arya will realise who she is and not kill her. i know faceless men arte not khired to kill those that they know but i dont think the kindly man is convinced by arya and will send her on the mission knowing the outcome, therefore sending her home. gthew girls will be safe in the hard to get to castle for the duration of the war vs others.
Gendry.
Brienne will tell him who is father is. he is still a bastard but has closure
stannis.
I beleive that he will lead the bolton army onto the frozen lake, his 'soon to be high ground' is a mound of snow, from that high ground they will start of the damage on the lake, fire/rocks etc. the manderlays will attack the freys/boltons from the rear, stannis will see this from a distance and realise. when the battle is done, lord too fat will have sent a letter, maybe a few copies with his high ranking officers, detailing what happened with davos. manderlays send a raven back to winterfell saing they have killed stannis, have his sword bla bla bla, and this is how ramsays letter came about. manderlays head back to winterfell and boltons let them in not knowing stannis army is with them! they destroy boltons, stannis kills roose.
theon
as he is about to lose his head by stannis at the weirwood tree, some funny goings on happen, ravens on trees talk and reval a little but not a lot, however, stannis is stioll going to go through with beheading when frey/boltons horns go and are sighted, theon then says to stannis 'give me a bow, have me die helping your army', stannis lets him and theon prooves himself. at the battle in winterfell thoen kills ramsay in epic fight but i think theon has build a strange relationship up with ramsays dogs, and the dogs kill ramsay from theons command and theons arrows. theon dies fighting the others, perhaps taking an ice blade to save a stark.
other greyjoys.
euron attacks oldtown and sam helps to defend the place, damphair is among the crew the whole time and kills euron. asha becomes first queen of iron islands.
Samwell.
After helping oldtown defend against euron they destroy most of them, he learns about others, dragons etc and heads back to the wall up the west coast with jaquen hagar, damphair and few others to help nights watch.
davos/rickon/osha
turns out osha is from skagos and some highborn type of wildling, (why head there?) could have gone to the wall to find Jon. her father/brother/husband is some secret lord there and decide to help them. davos is the POV for all this and after a sceptical arrival, wins favour with the skagosi and are part of the army heading south but end up fighting against others. davos and osha break away from fighting and take the boy and his wolf to winterfell after hearing of stannis winning back winterfell.
hooded man
this is howland reed, this is why theon or no one else recognises him and why he is hooded just to make sure. why would he not go there after hearing of winterfell being destroyed and wandering where his children are. he will help stannis and during the battle vs the others, tells Jon his true parentage. and what happed 15yrs ago.
Aegon VI
he is only a mummers dragon as varys was a mummer, but i think he really is a targ. why would varys support a blackfyre or other fake when he knows of dany, why not help her? and why would jon connington spend 15or so yrs raising someone who was not reagars? aegon dies in battle. and dany mourns for him.
Bittersweet ending.
there is no doubt the two main caracters are Jon and Dany, (ice and fire) and despite a slight relation they fall in love during the battling of the others, after the others are defeated. dany wants Jon to rule by her side but he never can as he is a man of the nights watch and cannot forsake his vows.
brans fate will also be bittersweet as despite helping with warging and other magic abilities, is destined to stay in the cave.
Benjen
is in the land of always winter and learns more of the others, he dies but to everyone he will always be a mystery, this is in an epilogue/proluge and also comfirms that george said we will visit the land of always winter.
there are many other characters but i think im about done here, oh, green grace is the harpy an loraq was he servant. harpys are traditionally women, why would george pick such a creature if ultimatly the leader is not a woman?
hope you enjoyed this read, please discuss, i just hope im not totally right or i ruined story for myself!!!!
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:06 PM
its not howland reed he recognised theon so it was sme1 who knew him
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:23 PM
who would not know theon, especially the state he is in.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:27 PM
ser sean of hamill, on 19 August 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:
its not howland reed he recognised theon so it was sme1 who knew him
I think it was Howland as well, or failing that Benjen, but that makes little sense.
As for the rest of this, I like it, especially the potential Hound + Jamie vs. Mountain fight. Maybe The Hound saves Jamie?
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:29 PM
Ghost is coming..., on 19 August 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:
who would not know theon, especially the state he is in.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:36 PM
I can't respond to the whole thing, because...it's HUGE. But I will say a few things about Theon, just because I've been thinking a lot about his fate specifically since Martin released the WoW chapter.
I think Theon will survive the series. He won't be killed saving a Stark because that just seems a little cheesy. I was thinking that in the WoW chapter Theon would ask Stannis to let him die in battle, but I don't think he can hold a bow. Even if he could, he definitely won't be the one to kill Ramsay. Again, a little too cheesy. As other people have said, Theon will probably just do whatever Bran says out of regret and remorse. Nobody has any reason to kill him because he is already in such terrible shape, and the fact that Stannis says he's going to kill him pretty much guarantees he will not. We are really rarely warned about the deaths of important characters, so I don't know why Theon would be different.
I think Theon will survive the series. He won't be killed saving a Stark because that just seems a little cheesy. I was thinking that in the WoW chapter Theon would ask Stannis to let him die in battle, but I don't think he can hold a bow. Even if he could, he definitely won't be the one to kill Ramsay. Again, a little too cheesy. As other people have said, Theon will probably just do whatever Bran says out of regret and remorse. Nobody has any reason to kill him because he is already in such terrible shape, and the fact that Stannis says he's going to kill him pretty much guarantees he will not. We are really rarely warned about the deaths of important characters, so I don't know why Theon would be different.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:50 PM
To be honest i think the hooded man doesnt play much of a role and GRRM just added it in to keep fans on their toes. Otherwise i agree with you on it but who knows.
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Ghost is coming..., on 19 August 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:
just want to give my view really on how i thing the series will end and the fate of some of our loved charcters. love a good discussion so feel free to poke holes. since i began reading the series i have made correct predictions, some surprisingly so. so below are my future predictions.
Jon Snow.
R+L=J, clearly true, no point in going over old ground, lyanna in a bed of blood says it all. At the end of 'Dance' jon was stabbed 3 times (not 4, the first was a graze/slice) and from Brans vision earlier in the series about Jon being pale and lifeless, and melisandre vision of jon with his own face, the ghosts then back to jon, resembeles Brans comatose state in GOT. forget all this un-jon rubbish, jon is in a coma, saved from further attacks from any wildlings in the courtyard, wun wun and queens men. many characters have survived bad wounds in the series and jon will survive this.
Furthermore he is, after recovering, Azor Ahai, reborn. stars bleed = queens man killed by wunwun, he has stars on his cloak, salt = bowen marsh tears. mels vision, where she looks for Azor and see's only Snow. Snow spelt with a capital 'S' means a name, this can only mean Jon. she doea not realise it yet is all. jon also had a dream of which he is holding a burning sword. there are further points to support theory but i think this says it all.
Danaerys Targaryan
I beleive Dany has been held in essos for a while, because GRRM clearly has this vision of what dany will ultimatly acheive and it can only happen at the end. a bit annoying, sure, but id rather a good end than to finish with a whimper. lets start with the vision of the three husbands the first is drogo, the second i beleive is Victarion, the mount to dread, who wouldnt dread him? and the third is Jon, the one to love. you cant count loraq. he is nothing but a pawn in the game but ill get on to him and harpys later. Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars (drogo and consumation of marrige). A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright on his dead face, gray lips smiling sadly ((grey and smiling, grey + joy) this is victarion)). A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with. (Jon).
Dany i beleive will take control of the khalasar she met at end of Dance, most likely roasting the Kahl. after re-appearing at mereen with the khalasar, the iron fleet and tyrions sellswords will have cut through half the rebels and dany will finish them. dont forget, dany is also ill from drinking dodgy water so this is unclear. she will marry victarion after his proposal (he wont 'take' her after seeing her power but he will kill loraq). she will marry him for the fleet but as victarion takes a wound in battle, he wont die but becomes un-victarion (hate the un-phrase but we all know what it means) because of the magic in his system so to speak from his red preist. and he will become the dead corpse on prow of ship, smiling beacuse he got one over on euron but sadly because he knows what he is.
Jamie, brienne, cersei, thommen, mycrella, sandor, mountain.
jamie will try and persuade cat that he genuinly tried to rescue sansa and in all this not be killed but taken prisoner for a while, thats why we have not heard from him.
cersei is about to have a trial by battle, thommen will be killed in this battle accidentally but gregor will win. cersei will be distraught but declair mycrella Queen. cersei will somehow get whiff of sansa being at the eyrie and send gregor there to kill her.(littlefinger will play a part in all this, maybe fearfull that sansa is becoming too smart). they will chase him down and aprehend him at the eyrie. or cat will hear of sansa being at the eyrie, send jamie and brienne to get her and as they turn up the monstor does. brienne dies and jamie finds out that gregor was all cerseis doing. the hound turns up (making brans vision come true).One shadow was as dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound (the hound) or as a backup theory, brienne is wearing the hounds helm)). Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful (Jamie). Over them both loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood (gregory the freak). gregor i beleive will get pulled out the moon door and the hound will go with him.
jamie heads to kings landing and become the valonqor. cersei stabs him during the strangling and they leave the world together. as mycrella must die before cersei (maggy the frog vision), i think she will be murdered maybe even by cersei herself. ( a lot of the vision has come true is of cerseis own doing.)
arya.
is hired by littlefinger to kill sansa. he hates that sansa has maybe thwarted him and outsmarted him. she has declared herself sansa stark to lords in eyrie and decides to say she wants to marry sweetrobin as she has to protect him, as littlefinger has more or less said the sickly little boy will die one way or another. littlefinnger will be kept around as the full details of him will not be announced by her such as killing lysa as it will implicate her, so littlefinger still has room for scheming. arya will realise who she is and not kill her. i know faceless men arte not khired to kill those that they know but i dont think the kindly man is convinced by arya and will send her on the mission knowing the outcome, therefore sending her home. gthew girls will be safe in the hard to get to castle for the duration of the war vs others.
Gendry.
Brienne will tell him who is father is. he is still a bastard but has closure
stannis.
I beleive that he will lead the bolton army onto the frozen lake, his 'soon to be high ground' is a mound of snow, from that high ground they will start of the damage on the lake, fire/rocks etc. the manderlays will attack the freys/boltons from the rear, stannis will see this from a distance and realise. when the battle is done, lord too fat will have sent a letter, maybe a few copies with his high ranking officers, detailing what happened with davos. manderlays send a raven back to winterfell saing they have killed stannis, have his sword bla bla bla, and this is how ramsays letter came about. manderlays head back to winterfell and boltons let them in not knowing stannis army is with them! they destroy boltons, stannis kills roose.
theon
as he is about to lose his head by stannis at the weirwood tree, some funny goings on happen, ravens on trees talk and reval a little but not a lot, however, stannis is stioll going to go through with beheading when frey/boltons horns go and are sighted, theon then says to stannis 'give me a bow, have me die helping your army', stannis lets him and theon prooves himself. at the battle in winterfell thoen kills ramsay in epic fight but i think theon has build a strange relationship up with ramsays dogs, and the dogs kill ramsay from theons command and theons arrows. theon dies fighting the others, perhaps taking an ice blade to save a stark.
other greyjoys.
euron attacks oldtown and sam helps to defend the place, damphair is among the crew the whole time and kills euron. asha becomes first queen of iron islands.
Samwell.
After helping oldtown defend against euron they destroy most of them, he learns about others, dragons etc and heads back to the wall up the west coast with jaquen hagar, damphair and few others to help nights watch.
davos/rickon/osha
turns out osha is from skagos and some highborn type of wildling, (why head there?) could have gone to the wall to find Jon. her father/brother/husband is some secret lord there and decide to help them. davos is the POV for all this and after a sceptical arrival, wins favour with the skagosi and are part of the army heading south but end up fighting against others. davos and osha break away from fighting and take the boy and his wolf to winterfell after hearing of stannis winning back winterfell.
hooded man
this is howland reed, this is why theon or no one else recognises him and why he is hooded just to make sure. why would he not go there after hearing of winterfell being destroyed and wandering where his children are. he will help stannis and during the battle vs the others, tells Jon his true parentage. and what happed 15yrs ago.
Aegon VI
he is only a mummers dragon as varys was a mummer, but i think he really is a targ. why would varys support a blackfyre or other fake when he knows of dany, why not help her? and why would jon connington spend 15or so yrs raising someone who was not reagars? aegon dies in battle. and dany mourns for him.
Bittersweet ending.
there is no doubt the two main caracters are Jon and Dany, (ice and fire) and despite a slight relation they fall in love during the battling of the others, after the others are defeated. dany wants Jon to rule by her side but he never can as he is a man of the nights watch and cannot forsake his vows.
brans fate will also be bittersweet as despite helping with warging and other magic abilities, is destined to stay in the cave.
Benjen
is in the land of always winter and learns more of the others, he dies but to everyone he will always be a mystery, this is in an epilogue/proluge and also comfirms that george said we will visit the land of always winter.
there are many other characters but i think im about done here, oh, green grace is the harpy an loraq was he servant. harpys are traditionally women, why would george pick such a creature if ultimatly the leader is not a woman?
hope you enjoyed this read, please discuss, i just hope im not totally right or i ruined story for myself!!!!
Jon Snow.
R+L=J, clearly true, no point in going over old ground, lyanna in a bed of blood says it all. At the end of 'Dance' jon was stabbed 3 times (not 4, the first was a graze/slice) and from Brans vision earlier in the series about Jon being pale and lifeless, and melisandre vision of jon with his own face, the ghosts then back to jon, resembeles Brans comatose state in GOT. forget all this un-jon rubbish, jon is in a coma, saved from further attacks from any wildlings in the courtyard, wun wun and queens men. many characters have survived bad wounds in the series and jon will survive this.
Furthermore he is, after recovering, Azor Ahai, reborn. stars bleed = queens man killed by wunwun, he has stars on his cloak, salt = bowen marsh tears. mels vision, where she looks for Azor and see's only Snow. Snow spelt with a capital 'S' means a name, this can only mean Jon. she doea not realise it yet is all. jon also had a dream of which he is holding a burning sword. there are further points to support theory but i think this says it all.
Danaerys Targaryan
I beleive Dany has been held in essos for a while, because GRRM clearly has this vision of what dany will ultimatly acheive and it can only happen at the end. a bit annoying, sure, but id rather a good end than to finish with a whimper. lets start with the vision of the three husbands the first is drogo, the second i beleive is Victarion, the mount to dread, who wouldnt dread him? and the third is Jon, the one to love. you cant count loraq. he is nothing but a pawn in the game but ill get on to him and harpys later. Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars (drogo and consumation of marrige). A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright on his dead face, gray lips smiling sadly ((grey and smiling, grey + joy) this is victarion)). A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with. (Jon).
Dany i beleive will take control of the khalasar she met at end of Dance, most likely roasting the Kahl. after re-appearing at mereen with the khalasar, the iron fleet and tyrions sellswords will have cut through half the rebels and dany will finish them. dont forget, dany is also ill from drinking dodgy water so this is unclear. she will marry victarion after his proposal (he wont 'take' her after seeing her power but he will kill loraq). she will marry him for the fleet but as victarion takes a wound in battle, he wont die but becomes un-victarion (hate the un-phrase but we all know what it means) because of the magic in his system so to speak from his red preist. and he will become the dead corpse on prow of ship, smiling beacuse he got one over on euron but sadly because he knows what he is.
Jamie, brienne, cersei, thommen, mycrella, sandor, mountain.
jamie will try and persuade cat that he genuinly tried to rescue sansa and in all this not be killed but taken prisoner for a while, thats why we have not heard from him.
cersei is about to have a trial by battle, thommen will be killed in this battle accidentally but gregor will win. cersei will be distraught but declair mycrella Queen. cersei will somehow get whiff of sansa being at the eyrie and send gregor there to kill her.(littlefinger will play a part in all this, maybe fearfull that sansa is becoming too smart). they will chase him down and aprehend him at the eyrie. or cat will hear of sansa being at the eyrie, send jamie and brienne to get her and as they turn up the monstor does. brienne dies and jamie finds out that gregor was all cerseis doing. the hound turns up (making brans vision come true).One shadow was as dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound (the hound) or as a backup theory, brienne is wearing the hounds helm)). Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful (Jamie). Over them both loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood (gregory the freak). gregor i beleive will get pulled out the moon door and the hound will go with him.
jamie heads to kings landing and become the valonqor. cersei stabs him during the strangling and they leave the world together. as mycrella must die before cersei (maggy the frog vision), i think she will be murdered maybe even by cersei herself. ( a lot of the vision has come true is of cerseis own doing.)
arya.
is hired by littlefinger to kill sansa. he hates that sansa has maybe thwarted him and outsmarted him. she has declared herself sansa stark to lords in eyrie and decides to say she wants to marry sweetrobin as she has to protect him, as littlefinger has more or less said the sickly little boy will die one way or another. littlefinnger will be kept around as the full details of him will not be announced by her such as killing lysa as it will implicate her, so littlefinger still has room for scheming. arya will realise who she is and not kill her. i know faceless men arte not khired to kill those that they know but i dont think the kindly man is convinced by arya and will send her on the mission knowing the outcome, therefore sending her home. gthew girls will be safe in the hard to get to castle for the duration of the war vs others.
Gendry.
Brienne will tell him who is father is. he is still a bastard but has closure
stannis.
I beleive that he will lead the bolton army onto the frozen lake, his 'soon to be high ground' is a mound of snow, from that high ground they will start of the damage on the lake, fire/rocks etc. the manderlays will attack the freys/boltons from the rear, stannis will see this from a distance and realise. when the battle is done, lord too fat will have sent a letter, maybe a few copies with his high ranking officers, detailing what happened with davos. manderlays send a raven back to winterfell saing they have killed stannis, have his sword bla bla bla, and this is how ramsays letter came about. manderlays head back to winterfell and boltons let them in not knowing stannis army is with them! they destroy boltons, stannis kills roose.
theon
as he is about to lose his head by stannis at the weirwood tree, some funny goings on happen, ravens on trees talk and reval a little but not a lot, however, stannis is stioll going to go through with beheading when frey/boltons horns go and are sighted, theon then says to stannis 'give me a bow, have me die helping your army', stannis lets him and theon prooves himself. at the battle in winterfell thoen kills ramsay in epic fight but i think theon has build a strange relationship up with ramsays dogs, and the dogs kill ramsay from theons command and theons arrows. theon dies fighting the others, perhaps taking an ice blade to save a stark.
other greyjoys.
euron attacks oldtown and sam helps to defend the place, damphair is among the crew the whole time and kills euron. asha becomes first queen of iron islands.
Samwell.
After helping oldtown defend against euron they destroy most of them, he learns about others, dragons etc and heads back to the wall up the west coast with jaquen hagar, damphair and few others to help nights watch.
davos/rickon/osha
turns out osha is from skagos and some highborn type of wildling, (why head there?) could have gone to the wall to find Jon. her father/brother/husband is some secret lord there and decide to help them. davos is the POV for all this and after a sceptical arrival, wins favour with the skagosi and are part of the army heading south but end up fighting against others. davos and osha break away from fighting and take the boy and his wolf to winterfell after hearing of stannis winning back winterfell.
hooded man
this is howland reed, this is why theon or no one else recognises him and why he is hooded just to make sure. why would he not go there after hearing of winterfell being destroyed and wandering where his children are. he will help stannis and during the battle vs the others, tells Jon his true parentage. and what happed 15yrs ago.
Aegon VI
he is only a mummers dragon as varys was a mummer, but i think he really is a targ. why would varys support a blackfyre or other fake when he knows of dany, why not help her? and why would jon connington spend 15or so yrs raising someone who was not reagars? aegon dies in battle. and dany mourns for him.
Bittersweet ending.
there is no doubt the two main caracters are Jon and Dany, (ice and fire) and despite a slight relation they fall in love during the battling of the others, after the others are defeated. dany wants Jon to rule by her side but he never can as he is a man of the nights watch and cannot forsake his vows.
brans fate will also be bittersweet as despite helping with warging and other magic abilities, is destined to stay in the cave.
Benjen
is in the land of always winter and learns more of the others, he dies but to everyone he will always be a mystery, this is in an epilogue/proluge and also comfirms that george said we will visit the land of always winter.
there are many other characters but i think im about done here, oh, green grace is the harpy an loraq was he servant. harpys are traditionally women, why would george pick such a creature if ultimatly the leader is not a woman?
hope you enjoyed this read, please discuss, i just hope im not totally right or i ruined story for myself!!!!
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:23 PM
Goosefeathers, on 19 August 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:
I can't respond to the whole thing, because...it's HUGE. But I will say a few things about Theon, just because I've been thinking a lot about his fate specifically since Martin released the WoW chapter.
I think Theon will survive the series. He won't be killed saving a Stark because that just seems a little cheesy. I was thinking that in the WoW chapter Theon would ask Stannis to let him die in battle, but I don't think he can hold a bow. Even if he could, he definitely won't be the one to kill Ramsay. Again, a little too cheesy. As other people have said, Theon will probably just do whatever Bran says out of regret and remorse. Nobody has any reason to kill him because he is already in such terrible shape, and the fact that Stannis says he's going to kill him pretty much guarantees he will not. We are really rarely warned about the deaths of important characters, so I don't know why Theon would be different.
I think Theon will survive the series. He won't be killed saving a Stark because that just seems a little cheesy. I was thinking that in the WoW chapter Theon would ask Stannis to let him die in battle, but I don't think he can hold a bow. Even if he could, he definitely won't be the one to kill Ramsay. Again, a little too cheesy. As other people have said, Theon will probably just do whatever Bran says out of regret and remorse. Nobody has any reason to kill him because he is already in such terrible shape, and the fact that Stannis says he's going to kill him pretty much guarantees he will not. We are really rarely warned about the deaths of important characters, so I don't know why Theon would be different.
Hi, yeah sorry, spent couple of yrs reading this forum but never got myself on it so just unleashed all my thoughts!!! It is bit big. I believe theon has the fingers needed to hold a bow just from what I have seen of the art of archery (even went to Olympics!!!) but yeah saving a stark does seem cheesy when u read it back but I still think he will die.
I think the hooded man is howland as GRRM would just say, a north man passed theon and asked how is it ur still alive.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:23 PM
Jon Snow is Ice and Fire at the same time, no need for Daenerys there. I hope she dies. She may see Westeros however, I'm not that mean.
Plus, they are not the two main persons of the series, really, who made that up? xO
Plus, they are not the two main persons of the series, really, who made that up? xO
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:40 PM
About the Arya/Sansa part, there's no way it could happen the way you describe. Everyone has already left the Eyrie and cannot return until winter is over. So no safety for the Stark girls there, and no Gregor falling through the Moon Door. Sorry, it would have been nice.
Agree with most of the Theon part, especially about the bow and the dogs. But I think if he was going to die he would have by now, he'll survive the series (or at least the next book)
Not really sure about the Dany or Lannisters bits.
Agree with most of the Theon part, especially about the bow and the dogs. But I think if he was going to die he would have by now, he'll survive the series (or at least the next book)
Not really sure about the Dany or Lannisters bits.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:55 PM
good read. This'll be a cool thread to look back on 40 years from now when GRRM finishes the 7th book and closes out the story.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:59 PM
Ghost is coming..., on 19 August 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:
Jon Snow.
R+L=J, clearly true, no point in going over old ground, lyanna in a bed of blood says it all. At the end of 'Dance' jon was stabbed 3 times (not 4, the first was a graze/slice) and from Brans vision earlier in the series about Jon being pale and lifeless, and melisandre vision of jon with his own face, the ghosts then back to jon, resembeles Brans comatose state in GOT. forget all this un-jon rubbish, jon is in a coma, saved from further attacks from any wildlings in the courtyard, wun wun and queens men. many characters have survived bad wounds in the series and jon will survive this.
To be honest, the highlighted part does not make any sense. Why would Wun Wun and the queens men be on the same side?
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:42 PM
I didn't say that, I said they will save Jon from the watch from further stabs.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:46 PM
Ghost is coming..., on 19 August 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:
I didn't say that, I said they will save Jon from the watch from further stabs.
Why would the queen's men led by Axel Florent save the bastard, especially after one of their own men was murdered by a giant left to roam free by Jon Snow?
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:26 PM
interesting theory about the hooded man. Can't wait for the swamp-ninja.
regarding Myrcella I much prefer the theory that her crowning and death have already happened in Dorne, i.e. that she really didn't survive Darkstar's attack and Doran is trying to hide this by presenting her switcheroo-able handmaid. It would feel really rushed to me if GURM gets rid of both Tommen and Myrcella in a single volume. I like the idea that Tommen gets killed in the trial, possibly by unGregor himself? would be a tragic way to save Cersei's life.
I also disagree with Littlefinger hiring Arya to kill Sansa. We have heard too often about how the temple of black and white do their price policy. half of all you have, or the likes. Definitely an uber-expensive way for LF to get rid of someone who isn't at all that well guarded. I think I prefer Arya running off on her own, maybe after hearing something about Westeros. There is a reason she has tucked Needle away, she hasn't fully committed to becoming a faceless man.
regarding Myrcella I much prefer the theory that her crowning and death have already happened in Dorne, i.e. that she really didn't survive Darkstar's attack and Doran is trying to hide this by presenting her switcheroo-able handmaid. It would feel really rushed to me if GURM gets rid of both Tommen and Myrcella in a single volume. I like the idea that Tommen gets killed in the trial, possibly by unGregor himself? would be a tragic way to save Cersei's life.
I also disagree with Littlefinger hiring Arya to kill Sansa. We have heard too often about how the temple of black and white do their price policy. half of all you have, or the likes. Definitely an uber-expensive way for LF to get rid of someone who isn't at all that well guarded. I think I prefer Arya running off on her own, maybe after hearing something about Westeros. There is a reason she has tucked Needle away, she hasn't fully committed to becoming a faceless man.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:32 PM
Err Sansa is away from the Eyrie and now in the Gates of the Moon. So no pushing people out the moon door until spring!
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:35 PM
Lady Sansa Stark, on 19 August 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:
Jon Snow is Ice and Fire at the same time, no need for Daenerys there. I hope she dies. She may see Westeros however, I'm not that mean.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:41 PM
When I think about Sansa's situation, I really believe that she's gonna find the strength to take matters into her own hands and confront Littlefinger (possibly even killing or exposing him). After that she could reveal herself as the last (known to be alive) Stark and rally the bannermen of the Vale against the Lannisters.
