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Lance Armstrong gives up the fight - Hero, Victim, Cheat or all 3?


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#321 Daario's*before*Snows

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostKen Stone, on 23 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:



When you consider what it takes to sit on a bike for 8 hours a day, is it surprising that he doesn't have much personality?

Yeh, the other cyclists have more than him.
He is abnormally boring in an interview.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:01 PM

View PostThe Lost Direwolf, on 23 January 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Maybe the idiots who organize these cycling competitions will one day realize that the stages are simply impossible for a normal non-doping human to achieve in the time they're asking for and change them accordingly.
Of course they dope. Have you seen what kind of horsepower they need to dish out to climb those mountain stages? No non-cheating human is capable of climbing those at those speeds without breaking a sweat.
Have you seen the development of the average speed in the mountain climbing stages over the last decade or so? The speed have gone down drastically. Because doping was so pervasive a decade ago, you did need to dope to have a chance to win. I'm not so sure this is the case today.

View PostSeanSnow, on 23 January 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

Well, he is now sports greatest fraud, cheat and bully. The only road to redemption is to spill the beans on the corruption in the UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale)
The UCI today is not the same as when Armstrong was at it's peak. The previous president of UCI, Verbruggen, have stated that the policy was to try to stop doping through warning cyclists about high blood count, rather than catching cheaters. Even back then there were professional teams that received letters informing them that all their cyclist had 'normal' blood count, so it's not like all cyclist was doping.

Since the exit of Verbruggen, the policy at UCI have been quite different with far more efficient methods to do something about the problem.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:21 AM

tour de france has been always the tour of doping. whatever the lance said was right. he didnt invent the culture. he was just follwing the footsteps of great riders from past.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:29 AM

"they all did it" was a poor excuse when I was a kid, and it's an even weaker excuse now that I'm an adult.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostSad King Billy, on 09 February 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

"they all did it" was a poor excuse when I was a kid, and it's an even weaker excuse now that I'm an adult.

It's not an excuse it's an explanation. If Lance didn't dope he wouldn't be in this situation because he wouldn't have won and no one would give a shit about him. It would have been some other dopping winner  facing Oprah.



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