andrew02, on 21 September 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:
We saw the whitewalers in the proluge of book 1 so i doubt he summoned them haha
True. Nothing is certain - but i like to speculate - even if it is a bit crazy... and i didn't mean summonded them from their hibernation... i just meant summoned them to the Fist (if that was where he blew the horn?)
The full crazy
theory is that:
- Tormund blew the horn first. Summoned them - hence the name "Tormund Hornblower". (Mance gets Tormund to blow the horn, much like Euron gets one of his commanders to blow dragonbinder - then they send the Others south to test the NW defences)
- Benjen stole and then blew the horn... turning the Others against the wildlings forcing them to flee to the Wall rather than march on it... then Benjen left the horn for Jon (could this be a parallel situation for Victarion... only without the stealing..?)
- Jon then blew horn and made the Others his and then went to join the wildling evacuation... the Others arrived at the FIST, didn't find Jon, so slaughtered whoever they found there - (possibly they know who are friends to Jon in the same way the Direwolves know who wants to hurt the Starks?) - Jon and his wildlings are not attacked by Others while he is with them...
Also, linking in with the Dragonbinder phrase: "blood for fire, fire for blood" - i wouldn't be suprised if the HoW was "blood for ice, ice for blood". So if Tormund had Stark blood from ages past... that might be why he blew it... even crazier would be if Tormund became an icy Other at this point... but when he tells Jon about the story of the 'kissed by fire' woman he lay with, how she was 'warm' and it saved him from the cold... this could be a hint that Tormund broke the Ice enchantment. Benjen as a sworn brother would not have this luxury so maybe is just running around like a cold-wight-like creature... or the Wildlings found him after and killed him... Jon shags Ygritte who is also 'kissed by fire' and maybe drives out the cold too... so instead of the Others running around with purpose... they are just following the most likely sources of blood and heat e.g. the gathering at Hardhome would draw them... much like Drogon was drawn to the fighting pit.
Another parallell is that: Dany's fearlessness gives her control over Drogon afterwards... (she KNOWS she is blood of the dragon) will Jons re-birth make him fearless too and allow him to claim the Others for good (since he will KNOW he is special)? ...We know the Night King's down-fall was brought on by his fearlessness? and the whole point of Ice & Fire is that "every song has it's balance" ... so why not a like for like...? but instead of a wip and dragon... Jon has Longclaw and the Others... if
he finds himself in a similar situation to Waymar Royce... what if Jon slices off all the heads off the Others who attack him... maybe 7 of them? and then they submit to him... the slight variance on this would be that it's not Jon who claims them in the end... (since he shagged Ygritte he may have given up the Others...) but Bran instead...
The only reason i put this crappy crazy theory out there is that it is just subtle enough that it could be the sort of thing GRRM might go for... it kinda works with some of the parallels with Fire and helps make sense of some of Tormunds stupid stories... and it also makes Benjen the best NW brother there has been since in this scenario he would be a proper hero... but in keeping the the NW traditions "I shall win no glory" - in other words Benjens part is done... and noone will ever truly know what he sacraficed for the realm... there are a few holes in the theory - mainly that it's unclear whether the wildlings did or didn't find the horn, whether the HoW is the one Jon found and if it works even when cracked... but once they are treating with the NW you would think they would keep it quiet if they did blow the horn... to prevent the NW killing all of them for bringing back the Others. Hehe!