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[Rolex Baratheon]

GRRM missed a trick with her characterization. Made her a bit too stupid as compared to an evil sexy queen sort of figure.

[Angalin]

A couple of things.  One, this is a still-reading thread, so no spoilers from subsequent books.  Two, HBO show discussions belong in the TV show forums.  Thank you.

[Zar Lannister]

Lannister threads inevitably draw me into this side of the board.

Sticking to the AGoT book plot, Cersei is in constant defiance to what is established; basically. Why should she be forced to wear the robes if she could wear the armor? Why should she be punished for being with her brother, if Targaryens were allowed? Why must she rely on Robert to have power? Cersei does not like the world to set the plan for her and will not abide to it. She will fight and seize what she sets her mind on, whatever it is (including Lady's pelt at the time). From the perspective of a ruler that does not want her the heir presumptive to look like the wuss he really is, Cersei's sanction to the direwolf makes sense, politically speaking.

However, in a broader scope, I think Cersei likes depth in her decisions, choosing to act impulsively and thinking her choices are effective.. only to later realize things get out of her hands rather easily. Take Joffrey's ordering of Ned Stark's beheading, as an example of a short term scheme that caused her more troubles than she expected.

And her shameless admittance to Ned Stark during the confrontation about her children is among her most "yeah, I'm obviously evil, so what?" moments. Gotta admit it was one of the "mini-wtf" moments of the book.

EDIT: clarity

Edited by Zar Lannister, 19 January 2013 - 11:25 PM.

[gammaerys]

I loved the contrast of her when we finally read her POV. First, we see this solemn lady who might not be the brightest bulb, but she seemed to always keep her cool, then, in her POV, she's very paranoid and lightly insane and one of the most classless characters of the whole series.

[Pinkie Baelish]

Did my comment get deleted?

[Zar Lannister]

Well this thread lost steam quickly....

what does everyone think about Cersei's state of constant rebellion early on?

[PuzzleTime]

Kevin Lannister summed Cersei up well enough for me.

[Nelapsi]

Hornblower, on 28 September 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

I tend to like her mainly because she is true and honest to herself

rumple9, on 25 October 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

I think she is simply brutally honest with herself and those around her.

You know nothing

Just kidding of course. I don't agree. She's far from honest with herself. All she does is ramble about how life is unfair since she should have been a man etc and the Tywin bits, where she actually dares to think she is better than him... to me, she is nuts, and she ends up being exactly what she hates life gave her : a tw*t.

[Swimfan]

NoNameRivers, on 20 September 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

I know that she's supposed to be bad, [...]

If that would be the case this series wouldn't be worth worshipping but super-lame.
NO character in this series is really bad/ evil (aside from some serioulsy damaged characters). Just like in real life everyone who plays the game of thrones has a personal intention and a purpose.
When reading on you will see how brilliant ASOIAF is just bc. you will get to know the motivations of every player (even if just a simple lust for power).

[Zar Lannister]

Swimfan, on 21 January 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

NO character in this series is really bad/ evil (aside from some serioulsy damaged characters). Just like in real life everyone who plays the game of thrones has a personal intention and a purpose.

This is an oversimplification. Characters do have ulterior motives to their actions, but some have very low moral standards or signs of remorse. So there are quite a few evil characters in  there. As broken as Cersei's marriage/life in A Game of Thrones is, she has very little redeeming qualities. She's evil and supposed to be so.

[Theda Baratheon]

Swimfan, on 21 January 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

If that would be the case this series wouldn't be worth worshipping but super-lame.
NO character in this series is really bad/ evil

*cough*Ramsay*cough*