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[Lord Gautham Girishankar]

Simple enough topic, more like a fantasy thread of a fantasy book. What changes would you have made to the current storyline in the 5 books?

[LiamBridge]

Jorah: Khaleesi we have taken Meereen, should we stay here for awhile?

Dany: I have no time, Westeros awaits.

Edited by LiamBridge, 24 September 2012 - 01:25 PM.

[Kobayashi Maru]

LiamBridge, on 24 September 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Jorah: Khaleesi we have taken Meereen, should we stay here for awhile?

Dany: I have no time, Westeros awaits.

You beat me to it

I was going to say Dany arriving in Westeros two books ago.

[Stormcloak]

I'd make the young characters older to make it more believable and I wouldn't have split Feast and Dance by character.
Not sure I'd have had the heart to cripple Bran, kill Lady, Ned and Kevan, go through with the Red Wedding and have Jon betrayed either.
I mean the series would lose it's style without some terrible things but all of the above is too much, a series without Ned, Robb or Jon means not enough hope for the Starks to me and killing Direwolves is just too much for me

Edited by Stormcloak, 25 September 2012 - 06:24 AM.

[Thunderfist]

I´d change the descriptions of every sex scene into "And then they had some sex" and leave it at that

[Keirut]

Catelyn: Robb, you must ALWAYS have Grey Wind by your side.

King Robb: Sure mom, you're right.

[Lady Sansa Stark]

Ages of the children, that's the only thing actually. Maybe make the Rebellion18-20 years ago instead of 15 at the beginning of the book. It would have helped a lot already I think.

[Mad Madam Mim]

I would keep joffrey around for a while longer, although he is a little shit, he is a very entertaining little shit

[Finger Dancer]

1. Jaime keeps his hand. (I understand GRRM did this to "develop" the character but dammit my heart aches at the crippling of the best fighter in Westeros)

2. Khal Drogo lives. (again I understand how this was crucial to the tale, but Drogo leading the Dothraki wing of Dany's army would have been tits.)

3. Theon is never broken. (Huge fan of the Ironborn, seeing Theon become Ramsay's pet hurt my soul.)

4. Jon Connington doesn't get greyscale. (Like that character a lot, it's going to get sad when the greyscale spreads...)

And a thousand more...

[Pellaeon]

Harrenhal:
Jaquen: The man needs three names
Arya: Joffrey, Cersei, Tywin

KL (after the Red Viper arrives):
Random servant: Lord Tyrion, the king your father and sister are dead
Tyrion (hand and Tommens regent): I saw the letters of my father and commanded Frey and Bolton to stop it, I intend to make peace with Stark and we can invade the Iron Islands. Oberyn y the way here is Ser gregor take him to dorne

Edited by Pellaeon, 24 September 2012 - 02:08 PM.

[Pod The Impaler]

Ned finds out about Cersei and Jaime's many crimes, and then also Littlefinger's. They are all executed by being catapulted into an active volcano.

Sansa realizes right away that Joffrey's a douchebag, and the marriage is called off by Robert on the grounds that A) Joffrey is not his son, and B ) he's really such a douchebag. Lady is given the Kiss of Life by Thoros of Myr, and devours Joffrey.

Robert then summons Danaerys Targaryen and offers to trade places with her if she marries a Stark. She does. He runs off to Essos to live as a sellsword (sell-hammer?) for the rest of his days, but ends up freeing all the slaves as the world's first foreign Khal.

That's the first book. The next 4 books are just annals of how awesome the Stark dynasty is as it ultimately rules Westeros and Defeats the Others when the long winter comes.

Of course, despite the utter lack of surprise and suspense, everyone buys and loves the books anyway.

Edited by Pod The Impaler, 24 September 2012 - 02:05 PM.

[Winter's Knight]

Maggi the Frog never graces the pages.
Doran actually teaches his daughter to rule instead of assigning her to party management.

[someonetyriondpayforsex]

And that's why we need authors who are willing to destroy. I want a canopy of happy scenes in Westeros as much as the next fan, but admit it, if it weren't for the cruelty, the sex, and the violence, none of us would enjoy the series very much. Also, I love the sex scenes … huge brown nipples … fat pink mast … FAT PINK MAST, so fitting!

Maggy the Frog, though, is a fairly cheap plot device, I'm sure there could (and SHOULD) have been a better solution.

Edit: By cruelty and sex, I mean suspense and conflict. Obviously.

Edited by someonetyriondpayforsex, 24 September 2012 - 03:09 PM.

[lilenadheas]

No Stark would be dead. I'm sure you would all be riveted by A Song of Happy Homemakers

[NickSnow]

I've mentioned this before, and although it is not a major plot element, I think it would have improved AFFC a whole lot. I think he should have eliminated Arys Oakheart and Areo Hotah as POV characters and just have Arianne Martell have all the POV chapters for Dorne. That way, we would not have had a bunch of interspersed characters that we don't care about, but one central Dornish character that we could learn to love.

[Winter's Knight]

NickSnow, on 24 September 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

I've mentioned this before, and although it is not a major plot element, I think it would have improved AFFC a whole lot. I think he should have eliminated Arys Oakheart and Areo Hotah as POV characters and just have Arianne Martell have all the POV chapters for Dorne. That way, we would not have had a bunch of interspersed characters that we don't care about, but one central Dornish character that we could learn to love.

And miss out on this fine gem?

Quote

was there ever a woman with nipples so large or so responsive?

I believe QCI managed to eke out enough parody from that line to write her own song of ice and fire.

[Ramsay Gimp]

Have Tyrion either

a) reach Dany soon after escaping/killing Tywin
b )flee to Dorne after escaping/killing Tywin, and ally with Doran

And skip his long, drawn out Huck Finn adventure with Aegon. Plus, no Aegon.


I'd also have the Ironborn put up a better fight in the North, and not have so many Greyjoy POVs

Edited by Ramsay Gimp, 24 September 2012 - 03:40 PM.

[HeWhoKnocks]

Nothing.  The journey is more important than the destination.  The pain teaches us things.

[leniw]

• Well I could live without the sons of harpy and dany marrying one of them..I mean yes dany learns to rule but she could understand that ruling is difficult in one book!!
  
• Also, I would get rid of the giants..for a reason I cant explain I dont like giants, zombies..more zombies..direwolves, shadowbabies.. too much.
  
• Cersei should succeed in some things she did in the Feast before making the one mistake after the other. After all she was one of the main villains.
  
• Jon listening to Mel's warnings, or if they stabbed him, let him be dead!!
  
• Finally and that's my opinion, Martin expanded the story too much and now it's too difficult to tie things together.

[a13506]

Daenerys:
-after the sack of Meeren, The Mother of Dragons would move on to face Mantarys and a the long journey by the Demon road to Volanthis. Characters growth on the terrible journey that reveals more about Valyria.

Tyrion:
-facing a lot more assassins challenges in the journey between Pentos and Meeren. Tyrion as a desperate fugitive.

Arya:
-Faithful Unswyck, Zollo and other of the Brave Companions manage to cross the sea into Braavos. Some of the Mountain's Men(Raff, Shitmouth, etc.) would follow them in persuit(for the bounty that Twyn set on them). Both group watch out for each other in Braavos, were a certain seller of shellfish notices them. Arya faces monsters from her past while trying to follow the FM directives.

Jaime:
-visits Lancel before he leaves to Darry, were he admits the relationship between him and Cersei. This causes a rift between him and his sister. She sends him with 500(half) to take Riverrun, Raventree, Harrenhal, capture the Hound and the BWB(in the hopes that they will deal with him). Battles with multiple factions allows to see a greater glimpse on Jaime's mentality and the guerilla situation in the Trident.

Sansa:
-her presence in th Vale isn't so guarded. She is present at feasts, small Tourneys and festivals, allowing a greater interaction with highborn society while having the bastard status. Life in Jon's shoes.