118 replies to this topic

[all_Freys_must_die]

I hope to see that after the the Boltons and Freys are annihilated at Winterfell, Crowfood and Whoresbane Umber march on the twins with as many live Freys as possible and demand the release of the Greatjon. He has to be a part of the North getting back on her feet. He's the man to rally the North behind Rickon (sorry Stannis but you and your fire god aint much chop in the snow). As much as i like Stannis he is a Southron Lord and the North will have their King.
Not sure how Uncat will like handing over live Freys and may intervene but the hostages will be skeletons if they stay in those dungeons much longer. Free the big man!!!!

[TheTizer]

haha He's like the Michael Collins of Westeros  'Free the Big Fella!' He's still alive for a reason alright, but when he comes back he may not be as big, jolly and thundering a personality as he was, he may have become a bitter infirm man.

[irishtemper]

I hope so, I was hoping he would be transported with Edmure and the BF would spring them all and at least die with Frey and Bolton blood on their lips

[RobbStark1]

If the great jon gets out the north will be in open rebellion against the boltons as he is one of the few who witnessed roose bolton kill robb stark, so hopefully if he gets free stuff will get real

[Lonely Wanderer]

I am fearing he's already dead, and that his head was shipped to Dorne instead of Gregor Clegane's.

[A Bong of Ice and Fire]

I'm disturbed that his character didn't appear at all in season 2 of GoT. Maybe the showrunners knew that he will have no important role in the future in the books, so they just wrote him out of the show.

[The BlackBear]

RobbStark1, on 09 October 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

If the great jon gets out the north will be in open rebellion against the boltons as he is one of the few who witnessed roose bolton kill robb stark, so hopefully if he gets free stuff will get real

Sorry but he didn't, he was off undressing Roslin. Then he got in a fight and killed some guys and bit anothers ear off.
The SmallJon (GJ's son) was by Robbs side but I think he died before Bolton arrived. Smalljon was cool, do we know if he was an only child? I assume he was.

[Tyryan Lannister]

I really hope he comes back, but yeah, as Bong pointed out, it's likely that they wrote him out since they now know/assume that he's not going to be important anymore.

Although I do feel that, another part of the reason for him not being in Season 2 is because they chose to give his part (as Robb's second in command out West) to Bolton so that the betrayal will have that much more of an effect on the viewers.

[The GreatRon]

The BlackBear, on 10 October 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Sorry but he didn't, he was off undressing Roslin. Then he got in a fight and killed some guys and bit anothers ear off.
The SmallJon (GJ's son) was by Robbs side but I think he died before Bolton arrived. Smalljon was cool, do we know if he was an only child? I assume he was.

The GreatJons lineage is strange, in all the books and as far as I can see on the internet, the SmallJon is considered to be his only son, but there is a line in ASoS i think where the GreatJon is said to have "many sons and daughters".  So Im not completely sure.

[The BlackBear]

The GreatRon, on 10 October 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

The GreatJons lineage is strange, in all the books and as far as I can see on the internet, the SmallJon is considered to be his only son, but there is a line in ASoS i think where the GreatJon is said to have "many sons and daughters".  So Im not completely sure.

I can't remember that quote, but it could well mean his bastards, a man like that will have a few. And if he's claiming the lords right, he definitely will have one or two.

[The GreatRon]

yeah thats what I thought as well, bastards

[Cleighton the Pure]

Lonely Wanderer, on 10 October 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

I am fearing he's already dead, and that his head was shipped to Dorne instead of Gregor Clegane's.

I would say that is an extremley plausible answer to Dorne getting a large head. Although, for the Umbers to be on Boltons side they absolutley NEED the GreatJon for a hostage... look at the Manderlys... same idea but he got what he wanted am WHABAHM sending you know who to look for Rickon. They betrayed the Iron Throne, the Starks have never really had a place at court and the whole North for that matter. I could see the entirety of the North standing alone as its own entity. After all we will be seeing more of the Land of Always Winter in this book. The GreatJon would rally the north easily enough.. why cant Wyman? He is da BAU5 by the way such an awesome character!

[Cleighton the Pure]

After all we ALL know the Freys are ALL going to die! They got it coming

[sertravisredbeard]

I work at a hotel and had to check in someone named Frey a couple of days ago.  I hated the guy.

[longish claw]

i'm pretty sure the actor palyin the GJ wasn't available at the time so rather than replace him they elavated bolton up a notch so wudn't pay 2 much 2 what was done in d series in that regard!!

[Circle Breaker]

I think it is very likely he will escape the dungeons - his sigil is a giant breaking out of chains.  That can't be unintentional on the part of GRRM.

[Eddard Lannister]

The BlackBear, on 10 October 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

I can't remember that quote, but it could well mean his bastards, a man like that will have a few. And if he's claiming the lords right, he definitely will have one or two.

Actually I think they are legit children.  Jon mentions them in ADWD during his meeting with Stannis.  Here's the quote:

Quote

“The Umbers have no love for the Boltons. If Whoresbane has joined the Bastard, it can only be because the Lannisters hold the Greatjon captive.” “That is his pretext, not his reason,” declared Ser Godry. “If the nephew dies in chains, these uncles can claim his lands and lordship for themselves.” “The Greatjon has sons and daughters both. In the north the children of a man’s body still come before his uncles, ser.”

[The BlackBear]

Eddard Lannister, on 10 October 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

Actually I think they are legit children.  Jon mentions them in ADWD during his meeting with Stannis.  Here's the quote:

Oh, good good. Now to see them, Hopefully one's called Tinyjon and overshadows his father by 2 foot!

[Rains]

He already has. Currently he's eating Frey pies of Walder's headless corpse.

[cold-king1990]

need to get the Great Jon back! hes legendary! enough said!