Arya Stark’s plan and the Twins theory
Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:18 AM
I actually think this is exactly what he deserves.. His male line to be wiped out and for him to die an unmemorable, uneventful death with no legacy...
Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:18 PM
50 Shades of Grey, which started as online fan fiction about Twilight- the first of which may have been the worst movie I've ever seen. I won't say I'm cursed to have teenaged sisters; I do love my sisters to death, but I could do without the sparkly vampires.
Gotta add that 50 Shades might not have the vampires (the author apparently rewrote it when she realized she could be making money) but it's plotless smut from half of what I hear, and the best book ever written from the dumbed-down mainstream other half.
And I love, love, love that you guessed the bible, aryagonnakill! I guess if you take into account that most of the stories from the Old Testament are rehashed from Babylonian mythology, and most of Babylonian mythology is rehashed Sumerian mythology, then, yes, you can count it as fan fiction!
Edited by gingerpunk, 28 November 2012 - 09:26 PM.
Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:28 AM
Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:14 AM
What do you have against weasels? They're adorable...
Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:08 PM
Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:18 PM
It is safe to say she will probably meet up again with nymeria
Vengeance on the Frey however will be even crueler than Arya and the wolves I think. But maybe it will be a part of it.
In the series they do point in one scene how Arya says she will eventually have to find members of her family. We know she'll never see Robb and her mother again and it's unlikely she'll ever physically see Bran again. She'll probably see Jon again because with all GRRM has built on how they have a particularly close relationship it would be a little ridiculous not to have them see each other ever again (Yes Jon ain't dead for me). And Sansa of course... In the series she takes some time before admitting she will eventually have to meet again with Sansa.
Now I like the series despite the countless forgotten plots and GRRM has told the rest of the story to the directors. I'm sure some little slips like that must have happened if we look closely.
Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:25 PM
Because of his obsession with "heirs" and becasue of all those he's already amassed, I think the deserved end for Walder is to see ALL of his heirs perish before he himself is done in... maybe just knowing that his "life's work" of creating the massive family and its legacy will be extinguished will be more than he can handle.
Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:40 AM
Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:28 AM
Lord Walder Frey doesn't know Arya in the first place. He's never seen her and sefinitely wouldn't recognize even descriptions after the 2-3 years since the beginning of the book. Girls ata that age grow fast as is mentioned at the beginning of ADWD. In the next 2 books she'll be a young woman, not a little girl any longer.
Posted 01 December 2012 - 05:37 PM
Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:25 PM
Arya is one of my favorite characters, and I have been waiting for her to reunite with Nymeria since AGOT. There is a point in A Clash of Kings when she leaves Yoren and her group to go "make water" and she comes across a pack of wolves. They just look into her eyes and run away so I definitely think the pack can sense her connection to Nymeria. We also have references to Nymeria made by Ghost and Summer so she is most certainly the she-wolf leading the Riverlands pack.
Of all of the Starks, I think Arya will develop the most skills and be in the best place to get vengeance.
Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:11 AM
can't wait for WoW at any rate i think some serious stuff is about to unravel
Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:31 AM
Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:46 PM
don't forget there is still Rickon and shaggy dog loose on - i'm guessing - Skagos where the onion knight has gone to find them... there is much more to happen before the north is avenged at the twins and i think there is some other plan ahead for our mate Walder Frey.
Besides i really think there is something about sam's broken horn we are all missing - will see if i can start a bit of a thread on that one!
Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:25 AM
Bran was six and Arya eight at the beginning of the story. (Rickon was 3-4, Sansa 11/12 and Robb 15) It sounds to me you have the TV series and the books confused a bit. Arya is 11 now, if my time line is correct.
It certianly is time for Arya to begin 'developing' I just wanted to mention it sounds as though you are a bit ahead of yourself.
Posted 07 December 2012 - 01:50 PM
I don't think it'll be as easy as a pack of wolves tearing down the walls and ripping everyone to shreds, as cool as that imagery is, but yea, I do agree that Arya is going to the Twins at some point. Then imagine awesome little Arya with the surviving Bannermen of the KotN at her ass.
Side note, am I crazy or have there been some river wild/wolf connections scattered throughout the books?
Posted 08 December 2012 - 02:39 AM
I like this a lot and it sounds likely with what Martin has Arya doing currently. I can see her infiltrating the Twins like this through Walder's pants. Even better though, would be if she got the entire family in one hall and locked them in and burned the place. And make Walder watch as his own line is extinguished before his eyes so he knows nobody has lived to carry on his house. And play the Rains of Cashmere while it's going on.
THEN Arya can kill the old prick!
Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:54 PM
In Westeros the extermination of the Freys would be seen as godly justice and would be sung of for centuries.
Also, the picture of thousands of wolves coming out of the forest and entering a castle to massacre everyone inside reminds me somehow of Lovecraft, whom I think Martin admires.
Edited by Rhoynar, 08 December 2012 - 01:56 PM.
Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:29 AM
THEN Arya can kill the old prick!
For five books now he's been saying that he has too many descendants, so if you want to make it a really poetic revenge, he has to watch all of them die, get his Frey-making organ cut off and then be left to live out the remainder of his life in bitter loneliness, fully aware of the fact that his House would die with him.
ETA: Still, I don't think that all the Freys will die.
Edited by TheCrannogDweller, 12 December 2012 - 11:35 AM.