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Lollys [spoilers]


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#1 SlackBladder

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:58 PM

Despite being a periphery character the little bits about Lollys really hit home for me. I mean, the books involve some pretty nasty things like murder and rape but with Lollys we get glimpses at the aftermath of someone who's been traumatized. Throughout the book we hear little bits here and there, about how she eats until passing out and cries all the time, it just really made me think about how this woman has been emotionally scarred. Not to mention how all the other characters shows almost no sympathy, Shae making fun of her and her mother seems embarrassed to be around her.

Edited by Stubby, 02 November 2012 - 12:59 AM.
MOD Edit: Title was kinda spoilerish for a 'still reading' thread.


#2 Top12Gun

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:20 PM

I have absolutely no compassion for her. :\

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:28 PM

I feel terrible for Lollys, people are so cruel to her and she's been through some rough things. I don't know how you couldn't feel sorry for her; she seems to have done nothing to deserve being treated so cruelly.

#4 Quentyn Baratheon

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:15 AM

It's a book of non historical events so no. i'm in "shit happens" mood when reading ASOIAF.

#5 Top12Gun

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:17 PM

It's a book of non historical events so no. i'm in "shit happens" mood when reading ASOIAF.


This, and I also have little sympathy for stupid people.

#6 Lummel

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

er, she's clearly got some kind of mental disability...

Lollys is definitely a very unfortunate character. How people react to her in the novel is a good measure of their characters in my opinion.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:31 PM

Edit: deleted

Edited by Belandra Waters, 25 October 2012 - 01:37 PM.


#8 Lummel

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:33 PM

Belandra - this is a still reading section and you've just posted a spoiler. Could you either remove it, or put it inside spoiler tags?

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:36 PM

er, she's clearly got some kind of mental disability...

Lollys is definitely a very unfortunate character. How people react to her in the novel is a good measure of their characters in my opinion.


Disagree, since some of us have the "Crud happens" mentality w/ regard to ASOIF.

#10 Belandra Waters

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:41 PM

Belandra - this is a still reading section and you've just posted a spoiler. Could you either remove it, or put it inside spoiler tags?


Thanks, Lummel!! That's a good reminder to double-check those details!

#11 Belandra Waters

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:48 PM

This, and I also have little sympathy for stupid people.


Speechless....

#12 Joe11093

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:18 PM

It was an unfortunate thing, but I am in the "shit happens" kind of mentality. If it had been Sansa I would have been more upset since it's someone you read much more about.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 04:48 PM

I am thinking if you guys all got gang-raped by fifty men you wouldn't shrug it off by saying "shit-happens." This thread is very unfortunate. Yes, it is extremely distressing, compounded with the fact that she is obviously not as sound of mind as the rest of the highborn ladies and the remarks that Shae makes about her make me loathe her character. Lollys was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it's sad that there was no Hound to protect her.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:55 PM

Speechless....


Indeed.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:31 AM

I am thinking if you guys all got gang-raped by fifty men you wouldn't shrug it off by saying "shit-happens." This thread is very unfortunate. Yes, it is extremely distressing, compounded with the fact that she is obviously not as sound of mind as the rest of the highborn ladies and the remarks that Shae makes about her make me loathe her character. Lollys was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it's sad that there was no Hound to protect her.


Sorry, but that's a fictional event for a fictional character in a fictional world. I thoroughly enjoy the books, it can make me laugh, sad, smile, thinking. But I won't be distressed or happy. I got that plenty enough by reading News or a History book or talking with my friends, that's real people just there.

If you want to project IRL in the books, good for you. Just avoid the patronizing tone to boss everybody around.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:58 AM

Sorry, but that's a fictional event for a fictional character in a fictional world. I thoroughly enjoy the books, it can make me laugh, sad, smile, thinking. But I won't be distressed or happy. I got that plenty enough by reading News or a History book or talking with my friends, that's real people just there.

If you want to project IRL in the books, good for you. Just avoid the patronizing tone to boss everybody around.

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I don't have a patronizing tone in this thread I'm straight up saying that whoever says that they have no compassion for some fictional character would most likely feel the same way about someone in the real world who they don't know. Whatever, I really don't care anymore, I came across this thread while just browsing and I felt compelled to respond. If you think I'm bossing you around by saying nothing of the sort then you probably have a guilty conscious and know you're wrong.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:00 PM

I always felt so bad for her when reading about her and I wanted to punch Shae >/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

This, and I also have little sympathy for stupid people.

She was raped, there is nothing stupid about that.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I don't have a patronizing tone in this thread I'm straight up saying that whoever says that they have no compassion for some fictional character would most likely feel the same way about someone in the real world who they don't know. Whatever, I really don't care anymore, I came across this thread while just browsing and I felt compelled to respond. If you think I'm bossing you around by saying nothing of the sort then you probably have a guilty conscious and know you're wrong.


Well ya, something bad happens to someone I don't know in a far away place my response would be along the lines of "that sucks" maybe with a WTF thrown in for good measure. This isn't a bad thing, empathy is good. Empathizing with every bad thing that happens in the world is not. That's the road that leads to being an emotional cripple.

And guilty conscious really? If you let yourself be really effected by fictional events it may be time to see a therapist because I think that may be a sign of mentally instability.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:20 AM

I think empathy dosed with a good sense of reality is the way to go. Shit DOES happen. Maybe I am a terrible person for this but I can`t feel any emotion for people I have never met, will never know and have absolutely no connection to me whatsoever. It doesn`t mean that if something were to happen to someone I know, but am not even remotely close to, I wouldn`t feel bad: of course I`d feel bad.

I don`t understand people with the empathy high horses. It`s not stable to get upset by every little wrong in the world.

Edit: On topic: No, it never even crossed my mind.

Edited by callmedodge, 02 November 2012 - 12:21 AM.