Meaning of what Reek says
Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:41 PM
I understood pretty much everything else in this book except this section. Who is he referring to as he and she? What is he talking about? I went back and re-read a few times when Reek left, thinking I may get a clue, but I did not.
Thanks for the help.
Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:29 PM
Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:44 PM
- Ramsay knows he will be killed as the son of Lord Bolton and pretends that he wants Reek to get help, even giving up his ring(extremely important to prove your house as shown in the tales of D&E)
- Reek either believes Ramsay or simply fears his reaction in case he didn't follwo his orders
- Reek is killed as it is assumed that he's actually Ramsay
- Ramsay uses the diverted attention to get fitlh on his face and pretend to be reek or a commoner to the eyes of his foes
Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:25 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:13 PM
No it wasn't necessarily Lady Hornwood. It's well known that Ramsay does this with many women, so we don't really know who it was this time, as GRRM does not specify it at all.
As far as we know, Lady Hornwood was left to die in the dungeon. Would Ramsay have freed her to chase her and then shared her with Reek? Well, it's not impossible, I guess, but there is nothing in the book that hints at this. As far as we know, that poor woman was just one that Ramsay picked for his sick game.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:01 PM
Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:52 PM
Ramsay's disguised himself to look like Reek. He's got Reek's clothes, he talks like Reek. Reek - dressed as Ramsay, with Ramsay's ring - has just been killed, so it's only natural that Theon would think the survivor is Reek.
Or do you mean when Ramsay comes back with his army to "liberate" Winterfell? Well, then, Theon has always known this person as Reek, so why wouldn't he think he had Reek in front of him?
Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:06 PM
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:34 PM
Yes, Ramsey Bolton basically played a long con with our Ironborn Prince.
Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:35 PM
Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:17 PM
Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:34 PM
I also had to re-read all that as it confused me the first time.
Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:59 AM
Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:46 PM
Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:21 PM
He's a bit too subtle sometimes. Like when Ramsay says "The wretch is dead," when Theon calls him Reek. Why not have him say "Oh, my sweet Reek is dead." Or something.
Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:41 AM
Agreed, that would have cleared the whole thing up.
Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:50 AM
I hope you're ironic. Because it was the worst decision they ever made in the show, and they made some really bad ones.