Thanks for the welcome, all! I'm actually a veteran of 2 years, but could NOT access my account after getting a new laptop and all attempts to log into my old name (plain ole ZombieWife w/o the squigglies) failed miserably. So, I created a new name. Well, new take on an old name.
Loved seeing Lexi again, but I agree . . . so wasted on the stupid sire crap. Again, I wonder if it has something to do with Katherine. She might have sired Damon and because she is Elena's descendant, there's a lot of blood-sharing going on here. (Katherine made Damon, correct?)
I'll also sound out on the Klaus/Caroline thing. In truth, his chemistry with Caroline is the only interesting thing about Klaus. Tyler is a great character (I loved his transition from season 1 "dude" in high school to a badass hybrid), but he and Caroline have lost a bit of the magic. I don't know.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:28 AM
~ZombieWife~, on 11 December 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:
Thanks for the welcome, all! I'm actually a veteran of 2 years, but could NOT access my account after getting a new laptop and all attempts to log into my old name (plain ole ZombieWife w/o the squigglies) failed miserably. So, I created a new name. Well, new take on an old name.
Loved seeing Lexi again, but I agree . . . so wasted on the stupid sire crap. Again, I wonder if it has something to do with Katherine. She might have sired Damon and because she is Elena's descendant, there's a lot of blood-sharing going on here. (Katherine made Damon, correct?)
I'll also sound out on the Klaus/Caroline thing. In truth, his chemistry with Caroline is the only interesting thing about Klaus. Tyler is a great character (I loved his transition from season 1 "dude" in high school to a badass hybrid), but he and Caroline have lost a bit of the magic. I don't know.
Loved seeing Lexi again, but I agree . . . so wasted on the stupid sire crap. Again, I wonder if it has something to do with Katherine. She might have sired Damon and because she is Elena's descendant, there's a lot of blood-sharing going on here. (Katherine made Damon, correct?)
I'll also sound out on the Klaus/Caroline thing. In truth, his chemistry with Caroline is the only interesting thing about Klaus. Tyler is a great character (I loved his transition from season 1 "dude" in high school to a badass hybrid), but he and Caroline have lost a bit of the magic. I don't know.
Caroline/Tyler sucks. Caroline/Klaus is Kinda cool. Tyler/WWolf girl is cool. Just saying.
Steve McQueen needs a new love thing. Right Fucking now. Not the preachers daughter. She could be with Matt, he needs somebody normal.
I think the 12 = 12 thing is important story line. Can't wait.
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Kobayashi- Hmm...Good point about the council That'd be really cool if they were also 12 people who were sacrificed. I don't remember though. I have no idea what the explanation can be that makes this make sense, but I guess I should have faith...The show has not disappointed me yet and stuff that seemed kind of dumb at the time (the sun and the moon curse anyone lol) ended up being a twist that worked out great. But yeah, i'm having trouble seeing what it could be.
Glad to see everyone agrees about Tyler/Caroline. They need to really move those characters onward.
About the sire bond- Yes, I realize they made sure to emphasize that Elena's feelings were already there, but it's still a waste of a storyline and screen time. There is nothing beneficial about this storyline to any plot. All it does is provide yet another obstacle to them putting Elena and Damon together. Even worse, it brings into question all of Elena's actions earlier this season, which I thought were interesting and made her very interesting. There's just nothing good about this plot line at the moment in my opinion.
The preacher's daughter- I have no idea what to think about her. I have a feeling that she might be more involved than she's letting on...The show seems to be throwing her in our face episode after episode just to remind us that she's there. I think there will be some crazy twist behind everything involving her, but I have no idea what. I'm not buying the whole "I'm an innocent who has no idea what's going on" at this point, unless she's simply there to be a love interest for Matt. But I'm really not sure what to think.
Glad to see everyone agrees about Tyler/Caroline. They need to really move those characters onward.
About the sire bond- Yes, I realize they made sure to emphasize that Elena's feelings were already there, but it's still a waste of a storyline and screen time. There is nothing beneficial about this storyline to any plot. All it does is provide yet another obstacle to them putting Elena and Damon together. Even worse, it brings into question all of Elena's actions earlier this season, which I thought were interesting and made her very interesting. There's just nothing good about this plot line at the moment in my opinion.
The preacher's daughter- I have no idea what to think about her. I have a feeling that she might be more involved than she's letting on...The show seems to be throwing her in our face episode after episode just to remind us that she's there. I think there will be some crazy twist behind everything involving her, but I have no idea what. I'm not buying the whole "I'm an innocent who has no idea what's going on" at this point, unless she's simply there to be a love interest for Matt. But I'm really not sure what to think.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:12 PM
Tagganaro, on 12 December 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:
Glad to see everyone agrees about Tyler/Caroline. They need to really move those characters onward.
About the sire bond- Yes, I realize they made sure to emphasize that Elena's feelings were already there, but it's still a waste of a storyline and screen time. There is nothing beneficial about this storyline to any plot. All it does is provide yet another obstacle to them putting Elena and Damon together. Even worse, it brings into question all of Elena's actions earlier this season, which I thought were interesting and made her very interesting. There's just nothing good about this plot line at the moment in my opinion.
The preacher's daughter- I have no idea what to think about her. I have a feeling that she might be more involved than she's letting on...The show seems to be throwing her in our face episode after episode just to remind us that she's there. I think there will be some crazy twist behind everything involving her, but I have no idea what. I'm not buying the whole "I'm an innocent who has no idea what's going on" at this point, unless she's simply there to be a love interest for Matt. But I'm really not sure what to think.
The sire bond storyline could lead to Elena really having to prove her feelings for Damon. Damon's spent 3 seasons chasing after Elena and I think it would be awesome if Elena did some chasing after him. In the end, like everything else Delena have gone through, it will bring them closer.
I like April. I think she would make a good love interest for either Jeremy or Matt. Although Jeremy needs to sort out this hunter thing before he gets in a relationship with anyone. I wonder if April does know anything about vampires. Although you think if she did, she would be on vervain or something. Although maybe she is. And if her father was in contact with Connor, could she know about the hunters? Hmm...
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:03 AM
@Daenerys is my queen. Ok fair point, Elena chasing after Damon would work, but that isn't the way it looks right now. Of course now Damon is going to break is promise to Stephan? about doing the right thing.
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Black Wolf Smith, on 13 December 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:
@Daenerys is my queen. Ok fair point, Elena chasing after Damon would work, but that isn't the way it looks right now. Of course now Damon is going to break is promise to Stephan? about doing the right thing.
Yes I think they'll make it look that way,although , I don't see why staying with Elena and doing a good thing are mutually exclusive. He should just try not to tell her what to do and just let her make a decision first.
Re.Preacher's daughter I don't think she knows about vampires and for a moment I thought she was there to make Matt,Jer,April love triangl. But everything is possible. To me it looks like she'll turn out to be either a victim and we were supposed to meet her so it would hurt more or she'll turn out to be Silas' love. You know the witch that shut him up in a tomb or something,I forgot the original story. She's maybe her reincarnation,or kind of a doppelganger. Crackpot I know but I just have feeling too there's more to this girl and we'll soon learn what.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and writers only wanted some other human in the show besides Matt. I wonder when and why will Rebeca reappear.
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Kobayashi Maru, on 13 December 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:
Yes I think they'll make it look that way,although , I don't see why staying with Elena and doing a good thing are mutually exclusive. He should just try not to tell her what to do and just let her make a decision first.
Re.Preacher's daughter I don't think she knows about vampires and for a moment I thought she was there to make Matt,Jer,April love triangl. But everything is possible. To me it looks like she'll turn out to be either a victim and we were supposed to meet her so it would hurt more or she'll turn out to be Silas' love. You know the witch that shut him up in a tomb or something,I forgot the original story. She's maybe her reincarnation,or kind of a doppelganger. Crackpot I know but I just have feeling too there's more to this girl and we'll soon learn what.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and writers only wanted some other human in the show besides Matt. I wonder when and why will Rebeca reappear.
Re.Preacher's daughter I don't think she knows about vampires and for a moment I thought she was there to make Matt,Jer,April love triangl. But everything is possible. To me it looks like she'll turn out to be either a victim and we were supposed to meet her so it would hurt more or she'll turn out to be Silas' love. You know the witch that shut him up in a tomb or something,I forgot the original story. She's maybe her reincarnation,or kind of a doppelganger. Crackpot I know but I just have feeling too there's more to this girl and we'll soon learn what.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and writers only wanted some other human in the show besides Matt. I wonder when and why will Rebeca reappear.
Thank you lol- This was my exact thought as well. April is the witch who locked up Silas in the first place or something along those lines. The only other potential storyline seems to be a love interest for Matt, but even that I'm wondering why they've spent so much time developing that and reminding us that she's there.
They need Rebekah back, I hated how they just disposed of her early on as I felt she was really becoming a good character. They also need Elijah back, where the heck is he?
Daenerys is my queen, on 12 December 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:
Enough of Forwood, bring on the Klaroline! xD
The sire bond storyline could lead to Elena really having to prove her feelings for Damon. Damon's spent 3 seasons chasing after Elena and I think it would be awesome if Elena did some chasing after him. In the end, like everything else Delena have gone through, it will bring them closer.
I like April. I think she would make a good love interest for either Jeremy or Matt. Although Jeremy needs to sort out this hunter thing before he gets in a relationship with anyone. I wonder if April does know anything about vampires. Although you think if she did, she would be on vervain or something. Although maybe she is. And if her father was in contact with Connor, could she know about the hunters? Hmm...
The sire bond storyline could lead to Elena really having to prove her feelings for Damon. Damon's spent 3 seasons chasing after Elena and I think it would be awesome if Elena did some chasing after him. In the end, like everything else Delena have gone through, it will bring them closer.
I like April. I think she would make a good love interest for either Jeremy or Matt. Although Jeremy needs to sort out this hunter thing before he gets in a relationship with anyone. I wonder if April does know anything about vampires. Although you think if she did, she would be on vervain or something. Although maybe she is. And if her father was in contact with Connor, could she know about the hunters? Hmm...
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Black Wolf Smith, on 13 December 2012 - 02:03 AM, said:
@Daenerys is my queen. Ok fair point, Elena chasing after Damon would work, but that isn't the way it looks right now. Of course now Damon is going to break is promise to Stephan? about doing the right thing.
Kobayashi Maru, on 13 December 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:
Yes I think they'll make it look that way,although , I don't see why staying with Elena and doing a good thing are mutually exclusive. He should just try not to tell her what to do and just let her make a decision first.
Re.Preacher's daughter I don't think she knows about vampires and for a moment I thought she was there to make Matt,Jer,April love triangl. But everything is possible. To me it looks like she'll turn out to be either a victim and we were supposed to meet her so it would hurt more or she'll turn out to be Silas' love. You know the witch that shut him up in a tomb or something,I forgot the original story. She's maybe her reincarnation,or kind of a doppelganger. Crackpot I know but I just have feeling too there's more to this girl and we'll soon learn what.
Or I'm just reading too much into it and writers only wanted some other human in the show besides Matt. I wonder when and why will Rebeca reappear.
I wonder when Rebekah will come back is well. I hope it's soon because I actually really like her character.
Tagganaro, on 13 December 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:
Thank you lol- This was my exact thought as well. April is the witch who locked up Silas in the first place or something along those lines. The only other potential storyline seems to be a love interest for Matt, but even that I'm wondering why they've spent so much time developing that and reminding us that she's there.
They need Rebekah back, I hated how they just disposed of her early on as I felt she was really becoming a good character. They also need Elijah back, where the heck is he?
I guess I see what you're saying. Still though, why bring in the sire bond at all then, and not just have Elena's vampirism reveal that she actually does have serious feelings about Damon. I hope it brings them closer at this point just because I'm sick of Elena/Stefan. Either put her with Damon or do something else with her.
I think that the main reason why the writers would do this is to prove, without a doubt, that Elena loves Damon. Because she will have to prove it to everyone, including Damon. I doubt they'll put Stelena back together. One of the producers pretty much confirmed that in an interview. Although I wouldn't really trust interviews. But based on what I've seen on the show this whole season Elena won't go back to Stefan now. She really loves Damon and the two of them are perfect together. The more Elena is with him the more she'll realize that.
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I must start this with big OMG. What great mid season finale It started a bit slow and hectic but it payed of. We know a bit more about Silas.It was interesting Shane didn't say who was Silas' best jealous friend,a man or a woman,he just kept saying the witch. It was a bit odd to me and made me think Shane is this friend and was jealous of pretty girl.Who knows. Maybe. That would explain how he knows location of the tomb. And if Silas was greatest witch ever he may have been the most powerful creature at the time and that's why they need hybrids (the most powerful creatures now) to open the tomb. This brings us to Klaus and unnamed wolf girl no1. She was prepared to tell their entire plan to Klaus just to get those hybrids sacrificed. She really wants to know what happened to her family.This makes me think it's more than simple adoption records trouble. Shane said they were dead and he can bring them back. We'll see.
Damon did do the right thing,why entire episode dedicated to this thing I don't know but well...Stefan knows everything I cant wait for the confrontation,but judging by the trailer for the next episode it will be short and unimportant. I really don't like this Caroline's new hatred for Damon. In the same scene she was saying how Klaus is not that bad and we should not judge him for we all did terrible things but fails to remember how she just day ago judged Damon for the same things and in my book Damon is not half as bad as Klaus. Who BTW ended the episode with most surprising kill of season. This will make things interesting. Jer and Bonny are back together? Or not? I have no idea what is happening between those two. Cant wait for january Oh and April finally did something besides being the victim. Welcome back Rebeca
It started a bit slow and hectic but it payed of. We know a bit more about Silas.It was interesting Shane didn't say who was Silas' best jealous friend,a man or a woman,he just kept saying the witch. It was a bit odd to me and made me think Shane is this friend and was jealous of pretty girl.Who knows. Maybe. That would explain how he knows location of the tomb. And if Silas was greatest witch ever he may have been the most powerful creature at the time and that's why they need hybrids (the most powerful creatures now) to open the tomb. This brings us to Klaus and unnamed wolf girl no1. She was prepared to tell their entire plan to Klaus just to get those hybrids sacrificed. She really wants to know what happened to her family.This makes me think it's more than simple adoption records trouble. Shane said they were dead and he can bring them back. We'll see.Damon did do the right thing,why entire episode dedicated to this thing I don't know but well...Stefan knows everything I cant wait for the confrontation,but judging by the trailer for the next episode it will be short and unimportant. I really don't like this Caroline's new hatred for Damon. In the same scene she was saying how Klaus is not that bad and we should not judge him for we all did terrible things but fails to remember how she just day ago judged Damon for the same things and in my book Damon is not half as bad as Klaus. Who BTW ended the episode with most surprising kill of season. This will make things interesting. Jer and Bonny are back together? Or not? I have no idea what is happening between those two. Cant wait for january
Oh and April finally did something besides being the victim. Welcome back Rebeca
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I don't watch this show, and I haven't watched these clips, but as fans of the show, you may be amused. Presented without further comment:
Watch the cast of The Vampire Diaries read smutty fanfic about themselves!
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DVD ROTS, on 15 December 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:
I don't watch this show, and I haven't watched these clips, but as fans of the show, you may be amused. Presented without further comment:
Watch the cast of The Vampire Diaries read smutty fanfic about themselves!
Watch the cast of The Vampire Diaries read smutty fanfic about themselves!
I've seen it. It's hilarious. Candice is the best.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:32 PM
@Kobayashi Maru, did you nail what was going to happen in that ep?
OK I guess I am a little confused. 12 Hy Sac was done by Klaus? do we know what for? (the real reason) I know that Klaus and Step were working with the Prof, but why did Klaus do it? He knew they were breaking their bonds, but did not stop it? and then is so pissed he is looking for Tyler? couldn't he have stopped it before?
OK I guess I am a little confused. 12 Hy Sac was done by Klaus? do we know what for? (the real reason) I know that Klaus and Step were working with the Prof, but why did Klaus do it? He knew they were breaking their bonds, but did not stop it? and then is so pissed he is looking for Tyler? couldn't he have stopped it before?
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What a fantastic episode that was. Great recovery from the weaker previous 2 episodes.
I'm not sure about this. I guess it's still questionable that Klaus was not in on any plan with Shane. He might have just found out about the betrayal and sire bond being broken and killed them all. It does seem like he is in on it though. I guess we'll get confirmation afterwards- Perhaps he wants the cure so he can get Elena back to create more hybrids.
Agree with all your thinking. At this point, I'm also thinking that Shane is the jealous friend. Although the problem with this is I'm not sure he'd want to bring back Silas then, since Silas will probably want to kill him for messing with his girlfriend.
Really good point about Caroline. This has not been her best season, and I don't get why they've resorted to remaking her into her crappy season 1 persona.
Black Wolf Smith, on 15 December 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:
@Kobayashi Maru, did you nail what was going to happen in that ep?
OK I guess I am a little confused. 12 Hy Sac was done by Klaus? do we know what for? (the real reason) I know that Klaus and Step were working with the Prof, but why did Klaus do it? He knew they were breaking their bonds, but did not stop it? and then is so pissed he is looking for Tyler? couldn't he have stopped it before?
OK I guess I am a little confused. 12 Hy Sac was done by Klaus? do we know what for? (the real reason) I know that Klaus and Step were working with the Prof, but why did Klaus do it? He knew they were breaking their bonds, but did not stop it? and then is so pissed he is looking for Tyler? couldn't he have stopped it before?
I'm not sure about this. I guess it's still questionable that Klaus was not in on any plan with Shane. He might have just found out about the betrayal and sire bond being broken and killed them all. It does seem like he is in on it though. I guess we'll get confirmation afterwards- Perhaps he wants the cure so he can get Elena back to create more hybrids.
Kobayashi Maru, on 15 December 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:
I must start this with big OMG. What great mid season finale It started a bit slow and hectic but it payed of. We know a bit more about Silas.It was interesting Shane didn't say who was Silas' best jealous friend,a man or a woman,he just kept saying the witch. It was a bit odd to me and made me think Shane is this friend and was jealous of pretty girl.Who knows. Maybe. That would explain how he knows location of the tomb. And if Silas was greatest witch ever he may have been the most powerful creature at the time and that's why they need hybrids (the most powerful creatures now) to open the tomb. This brings us to Klaus and unnamed wolf girl no1. She was prepared to tell their entire plan to Klaus just to get those hybrids sacrificed. She really wants to know what happened to her family.This makes me think it's more than simple adoption records trouble. Shane said they were dead and he can bring them back. We'll see.
Damon did do the right thing,why entire episode dedicated to this thing I don't know but well...Stefan knows everything I cant wait for the confrontation,but judging by the trailer for the next episode it will be short and unimportant. I really don't like this Caroline's new hatred for Damon. In the same scene she was saying how Klaus is not that bad and we should not judge him for we all did terrible things but fails to remember how she just day ago judged Damon for the same things and in my book Damon is not half as bad as Klaus. Who BTW ended the episode with most surprising kill of season. This will make things interesting. Jer and Bonny are back together? Or not? I have no idea what is happening between those two. Cant wait for january Oh and April finally did something besides being the victim. Welcome back Rebeca
It started a bit slow and hectic but it payed of. We know a bit more about Silas.It was interesting Shane didn't say who was Silas' best jealous friend,a man or a woman,he just kept saying the witch. It was a bit odd to me and made me think Shane is this friend and was jealous of pretty girl.Who knows. Maybe. That would explain how he knows location of the tomb. And if Silas was greatest witch ever he may have been the most powerful creature at the time and that's why they need hybrids (the most powerful creatures now) to open the tomb. This brings us to Klaus and unnamed wolf girl no1. She was prepared to tell their entire plan to Klaus just to get those hybrids sacrificed. She really wants to know what happened to her family.This makes me think it's more than simple adoption records trouble. Shane said they were dead and he can bring them back. We'll see.Damon did do the right thing,why entire episode dedicated to this thing I don't know but well...Stefan knows everything I cant wait for the confrontation,but judging by the trailer for the next episode it will be short and unimportant. I really don't like this Caroline's new hatred for Damon. In the same scene she was saying how Klaus is not that bad and we should not judge him for we all did terrible things but fails to remember how she just day ago judged Damon for the same things and in my book Damon is not half as bad as Klaus. Who BTW ended the episode with most surprising kill of season. This will make things interesting. Jer and Bonny are back together? Or not? I have no idea what is happening between those two. Cant wait for january
Oh and April finally did something besides being the victim. Welcome back Rebeca Agree with all your thinking. At this point, I'm also thinking that Shane is the jealous friend. Although the problem with this is I'm not sure he'd want to bring back Silas then, since Silas will probably want to kill him for messing with his girlfriend.
Really good point about Caroline. This has not been her best season, and I don't get why they've resorted to remaking her into her crappy season 1 persona.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:24 PM
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At first I thought Klaus was in on the whole thing and he's working with Shane and wolf girl bit it was too weird and it didn't make any sense. Then I remembered wolf girl was talking to Klaus at one point right after she found out Tyler and the hybrids (this sounds like a name ob a band) is going to capture Klaus and set the hybrids free. Klaus even said she doesn't like me very much after that. He then went on a killing spree and her and Prof had their sacrifice (that can apparently be done anywhere at anytime by anybody and it counts as long as it's 12 of something).
I'm still not sure of this but that's what's making most sense to me.
At first I thought Klaus was in on the whole thing and he's working with Shane and wolf girl bit it was too weird and it didn't make any sense. Then I remembered wolf girl was talking to Klaus at one point right after she found out Tyler and the hybrids (this sounds like a name ob a band) is going to capture Klaus and set the hybrids free. Klaus even said she doesn't like me very much after that. He then went on a killing spree and her and Prof had their sacrifice (that can apparently be done anywhere at anytime by anybody and it counts as long as it's 12 of something).
I'm still not sure of this but that's what's making most sense to me.
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I definitely think Shane and wolf girl planned to have the 12 killed, but I'm confused like everyone else about how much Klaus was involved. I don't think that Klaus knows everything or he wouldn't be going all out to find Tyler. Wolf girl needed 12 unsired hybrids in order to keep Tyler safe, so I don't think Klaus knew about this part.
The one thing that I did find interesting was that Klaus was using the sword from the tomb when he was killing the hybrids.
I definitely think Shane and wolf girl planned to have the 12 killed, but I'm confused like everyone else about how much Klaus was involved. I don't think that Klaus knows everything or he wouldn't be going all out to find Tyler. Wolf girl needed 12 unsired hybrids in order to keep Tyler safe, so I don't think Klaus knew about this part.
The one thing that I did find interesting was that Klaus was using the sword from the tomb when he was killing the hybrids.
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Kobayashi Maru, on 15 December 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:
@ Black Wolf Smith
At first I thought Klaus was in on the whole thing and he's working with Shane and wolf girl bit it was too weird and it didn't make any sense. Then I remembered wolf girl was talking to Klaus at one point right after she found out Tyler and the hybrids (this sounds like a name ob a band) is going to capture Klaus and set the hybrids free. Klaus even said she doesn't like me very much after that. He then went on a killing spree and her and Prof had their sacrifice (that can apparently be done anywhere at anytime by anybody and it counts as long as it's 12 of something).
I'm still not sure of this but that's what's making most sense to me.
At first I thought Klaus was in on the whole thing and he's working with Shane and wolf girl bit it was too weird and it didn't make any sense. Then I remembered wolf girl was talking to Klaus at one point right after she found out Tyler and the hybrids (this sounds like a name ob a band) is going to capture Klaus and set the hybrids free. Klaus even said she doesn't like me very much after that. He then went on a killing spree and her and Prof had their sacrifice (that can apparently be done anywhere at anytime by anybody and it counts as long as it's 12 of something).
I'm still not sure of this but that's what's making most sense to me.
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Black Wolf Smith, on 16 December 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
So you think she sent them to the spot, and then to Klaus where and what, and let him do it?
Yes. Something like that,why he didn't go after her and just took her word for it I have no idea,I guess he went to check it out anyway and when he found them all there and realizes she was telling the truth he killed them. She only warned Tyler because she likes him.
Of course there's a possibility he was working with the Prof from the beginning but why is he looking for the cure if Proff knows where it it. Either they don't trust each other,Klaus has agenda on his own or he doesn't know Proff knows the location. But I'm more inclined to believe in simple solution,wolf girl saw hybrids leaving and told Klaus so he could stop then and complete the sacrifice. Win win for her and Professor.
The ritual itself is completely illogical. Usually you need it to be near the place of the curse and you need to do some spells,and at least be present. Stars need to align,moon must be full and all that nonsense. This was just a random place in the forest with no one to see. If this works with no explanation it will be plain stupid.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:03 AM
Vuron, on 15 December 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:
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I definitely think Shane and wolf girl planned to have the 12 killed, but I'm confused like everyone else about how much Klaus was involved. I don't think that Klaus knows everything or he wouldn't be going all out to find Tyler. Wolf girl needed 12 unsired hybrids in order to keep Tyler safe, so I don't think Klaus knew about this part.
The one thing that I did find interesting was that Klaus was using the sword from the tomb when he was killing the hybrids.
I definitely think Shane and wolf girl planned to have the 12 killed, but I'm confused like everyone else about how much Klaus was involved. I don't think that Klaus knows everything or he wouldn't be going all out to find Tyler. Wolf girl needed 12 unsired hybrids in order to keep Tyler safe, so I don't think Klaus knew about this part.
The one thing that I did find interesting was that Klaus was using the sword from the tomb when he was killing the hybrids.
Wow didn't notice that. You just put a big question mark in my previous post
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:29 AM
hmm..Good point about the sword from the tomb being used to kill the hybrids- I think I have to agree with Kobayashi that the best possible explanation at the moment is that Klaus was not in any way involved in Shane/wolf girl (does anyone know her name, seriously lol? I have no freaking idea what her name is after all this time). I think Wolf girl told Klaus where the hybrids were and what they were planning. That was the sacrifice all along.
I think it actually might make sense now that they needed to be unsired- Because the only way that Klaus would ever kill them is if he was forced to by them attacking or betraying him or something like that. Otherwise, if they just remained sired he could continue to control them and would have no need to kill them and complete the sacrifice. So it wasn't about them being unsired at all, it was just more about them being powerful hybrids.
I am as confused as anyone about the parameters of this spell at this point. We did get good confirmation that there were 12 council members in the house blown up by the priest. So that certainly connects the 12 sacrificed humans to the 12 sacrificed hybrids. Why? I don't know. Maybe the spell requires 12 humans and 12 werewolves and 12 vampires, and the hybrids were just kind of a shortcut to cross the werewolves and vampires off the list at the same time.
All this being said, it does make sense that Klaus would possibly ally with Professor Shane. Because we know from the beginning of this season that Klaus really wants the cure for Elena, so maybe he'd be motivated to go along with this plan. Which calls into even greater question what the hell Stefan is doing and how he can justify working with Klaus to himself. He knows that Klaus wants to again return Elena to a human bloodbag, and he's willing to work with him for the moment just because he hates Vampire Elena so much? Seems really cruel and stupid on his part, I wonder if he has a backup plan to deal with Klaus when the time comes.
I think it actually might make sense now that they needed to be unsired- Because the only way that Klaus would ever kill them is if he was forced to by them attacking or betraying him or something like that. Otherwise, if they just remained sired he could continue to control them and would have no need to kill them and complete the sacrifice. So it wasn't about them being unsired at all, it was just more about them being powerful hybrids.
I am as confused as anyone about the parameters of this spell at this point. We did get good confirmation that there were 12 council members in the house blown up by the priest. So that certainly connects the 12 sacrificed humans to the 12 sacrificed hybrids. Why? I don't know. Maybe the spell requires 12 humans and 12 werewolves and 12 vampires, and the hybrids were just kind of a shortcut to cross the werewolves and vampires off the list at the same time.
All this being said, it does make sense that Klaus would possibly ally with Professor Shane. Because we know from the beginning of this season that Klaus really wants the cure for Elena, so maybe he'd be motivated to go along with this plan. Which calls into even greater question what the hell Stefan is doing and how he can justify working with Klaus to himself. He knows that Klaus wants to again return Elena to a human bloodbag, and he's willing to work with him for the moment just because he hates Vampire Elena so much? Seems really cruel and stupid on his part, I wonder if he has a backup plan to deal with Klaus when the time comes.
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