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#21 polishgenius

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

View PostBigWeirdB, on 23 November 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

so, everyone then, including the tramps in the park playing around a dead badger.

But not Rangers.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

View PostRenasko, on 23 November 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

So, Menezes has been fired as Brazil coach...

Hoping Romario steps up to take over the reigns! :smoking:

No chance- not only he's in Congress, but he's one of the few people there actually taking seriously his job and pressuring the Brazilian Football Confederation over the hundreds of corruption allegations and problems in World Cup preparations. He's an enemy.

Scolari will probably get the job again, which would suck.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:33 PM

I know, mate. Just having a little fun. It'd be amazing if Romario was to become the coach, but it'll never happen.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:53 PM

View PostWinterfell is Burning, on 23 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Scolari will probably get the job again, which would suck.
Meh, he's much much better than Mano.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostRane, on 23 November 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Meh, he's much much better than Mano.

I'm not too sure. While he didn't had enough resources to build a top-class team, his work at Palmeiras was dreadful, and it's no coincidence they ended up relegated to the 2nd division (although he jumped ship before it).

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:51 PM

View PostCalibandar, on 23 November 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:

Not that I can think of others that should definitely have been included, but looking at all those names I conclude that there is not one truly great keeper among them. It's seemed that way to me for years now, that the current generation is missing a living legend keeper. All of these seem adequate but not superb keepers. And no, for me Casillas and Buffon are not as great as they are sometimes cracked up to be.
Buffon was absolutely suberb in his prime, but I think he's not as good as he was. Casillas is probably the best goalkeeper at the moment, though. Who are you putting in the Elite list of 'keepers from the past that they don't compare to?

Courtois is probably about as good as Hart, don't think he's better than Neur. And Cech's still a fine keeper if not actively excellent since his injury. He's on the list become he performed heroics in the Champions League, though. As for them all playing for top teams...well yeah, but then at the same time they're also probably mostly the best goalkeeper's in the world and play in the big games where they have standout performances. *shrug*

Mancini won't be sacked this season while City do well in the League. I'd be worried if they struggled in the League or didn't get out of the group next year. Think he's safe for now.

Edited by Faraday, 23 November 2012 - 09:51 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

View PostWinterfell is Burning, on 23 November 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I'm not too sure. While he didn't had enough resources to build a top-class team, his work at Palmeiras was dreadful, and it's no coincidence they ended up relegated to the 2nd division (although he jumped ship before it).

Palmeiras team is dreadful. They have Barcos and Marcos Assunção and that's pretty much it. I doubt anyone could do much better in his place.

Mano had two years to mold a team and failed... he should have been sacked after the Olympics fiasco.

Meanwhile... apparently Guardiola was asked about the job and said he would accept it. I doubt it, but it would be awesome if he got it.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:03 PM

Guardiola would be...excellent.

Not sure why Rafa felt saying Cole was leaving was a good idea. Will be gutted if he leaves, he's still an amazing left back and unlike Lampard is a regular. Blah.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:16 PM

Pity Liverpool's B team could not hold out for a win against Young Boys, nor get through the game without needing the heavy hitters subbed in.  It would have helped a lot in the next couple of weeks with lots of games ahead.  And it would have been a good learning opportunity for them.

But Young Boys have improved a lot since we first played them (I think they beat Udinese twice).  We still have a chance but I won't be bothered if we don't go through.  It's a big distraction for a team that needs to focus on league form.  It's only worthwhile so long as the second string are doing most of the work -- just like the Carling Cup.


I think 'arry would be quite good for QPR, initially at least, even if I dislike his old boys club and financial sleaze.  It's a pity Liverpool did not get to play QPR while Hughes was still there.  There's a lot to be said for playing teams at the right time.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-20464371

who'd have thought it, Fergie time really does exist.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:00 AM

View PostBigWeirdB, on 24 November 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-20464371

who'd have thought it, Fergie time really does exist.

Thus proving Millions of people over the last 20years to be correct. Im glad we've been sort-of-scienticifally vindicated. That said, with key past signings like Graham Poll, it was always inevitable they would sneak some late goals in.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:05 AM

View PostBigWeirdB, on 24 November 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-20464371

who'd have thought it, Fergie time really does exist.

I knew it!!

Makes me sick. SICK I tell you.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:22 AM

Fergie time exist for big clubs, it seems.. which means those of us supporting the smaller clubs will continue to rail against it. The future is bleak :frown5: (for those wondering, no: do not interpret those sentences literally..)

Of course, given more time than we'll get, Moyes may make us competitive. I doubt he'll stick around for that long, seeing as his contract runs out in the summer. Also, he's not the Moyesiah - he does have flaws as a manager. Being too conservative, introducing subs too late, far often more reactive than proactive, which means we try to adapt to others rather than imposing ourselves on them.. so we'll probably be stuck somewhere from 6-20 in the forseeable future.

And no, I do not see Bill Kenwright selling. He's stated that his goal is selling, but he's been doing that for - what is it now, 13 years? Why that is, I can't really say (would entail me knowing the inside of his mind..), but I'm guessing it's a combination of too high asking price, and scepticism towards a buyer - he'll probably want someone as blue as he is (which means there's a grand total of zero potential rich buyers). The owners of Blackburn (and the last regime across the park) offer cautionary tales, so he'll remain the owner for quite some time yet.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:57 AM

Mignolet. :laugh: Poor guy. I guess even Belgians can't be perfect all the time.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:12 AM

View PostRane, on 23 November 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Palmeiras team is dreadful. They have Barcos and Marcos Assunção and that's pretty much it. I doubt anyone could do much better in his place
Mano had two years to mold a team and failed... he should have been sacked after the Olympics fiasco..

Yeah, but Scolari had two years to build a team in Palmeiras and failed. He didn't had that much money, but in the past he was able to build good teams without a massive budget.

View PostRane, on 23 November 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Meanwhile... apparently Guardiola was asked about the job and said he would accept it. I doubt it, but it would be awesome if he got it.

He would also have the advantage of being able to work outside the country even if he lost in 2014, which would ease a little of the pressure for him.

He would be better than any of the leading candidates- the last time a coach with new ideas and clear tactical acumen appeared in Brazil was Luxemburgo in the 90's (but even he is now outdated). Most of them are only worried about winning by 1x0 and defend, defend, defend.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

Hughes holding QPR back from their natural level no doubt

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

United rattling around like spare change in the washing machine at home again. They really haven't been very good this year.

Edit - spelling

Edited by AlexTimperley, 24 November 2012 - 11:19 AM.


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:21 AM

hmm, harry gets shit players playing well, can anybody think of a job he probably should have got?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

Jonny Evans steps up.

^^ Not often you have cause to type that.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

There we are, the balance has been restored.