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Hasn't Colorado been on a downward slide ever since the rape/NCAA sanctions shitstorm? I got the impression that the program got hit pretty bad by that, and then compounded it with two or three mediocre-or-worse coaching hires, and juat continued slipping.

[Triskele]

DVD ROTS, on 10 December 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Hasn't Colorado been on a downward slide ever since the rape/NCAA sanctions shitstorm? I got the impression that the program got hit pretty bad by that, and then compounded it with two or three mediocre-or-worse coaching hires, and juat continued slipping.

Oh, damn.  I'd forgotten about that.  Here's a refresher.


I remember during the whole thing going down Barnett was savvy enough to point out that the female player in question was terrible.  Extremely relevant to the situation, Gary!

[lockesnow]

speaking of scandals, recent developments in the case have caused an NYT column suggesting that the McNair case against the NCAA could be a 'downfall of Big Tobacco' esque turning point.

I really hope he doesn't settle.

here's an update on the case: http://sports.yahoo....643--ncaaf.html

Remember, the reason that USC was sanctioned was because there was a disagreement about what year a 3AM phone call took place in.  phone records and McNair have the call taking place in one year, a convicted felon said the phone call took place in another year and the NCAA decided the felon was more credible than McNair and since it was plausible McNair could have been informed of Reggie Bush's actions on this phone call had the phone call not happened in the year that the phone records said it happened in: so he was clearly guilty, and so USC was guilty and got hit with the sanctions.

http://sports.yahoo....643--ncaaf.html

Edited by lockesnow, 10 December 2012 - 07:34 PM.

[Hooplehead]

Rhom, on 10 December 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Bobby Petrino officially announced as WKU coach today.  My brother is a chiropractor in Bowling Green... he's hopeful for Petrino as a patient following another Harley accident!  

I can't decide who's "reaching" lower here... Petrino or WKU.  Either way it's clearly a 1 or 2 year setup at best.

[Rhom]

Hooplehead, on 11 December 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

I can't decide who's "reaching" lower here... Petrino or WKU.  Either way it's clearly a 1 or 2 year setup at best.

A WKU alum told me that Petrino is being paid $850,000 per year and theres a $1.2 million buyout... so they may be able to make $300k on the deal!

[MisterOJ]

Rhom, on 11 December 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

A WKU alum told me that Petrino is being paid $850,000 per year and theres a $1.2 million buyout... so they may be able to make $300k on the deal!

That's the truth.

The irony of the situation is that three years ago, WKU interviewed Paul Petrino (now the head coach at Idaho) and offered him the job. He turned it down and they instead hired Taggart.

[Black Wolf Smith]

Hooplehead, on 11 December 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

I can't decide who's "reaching" lower here... Petrino or WKU.  Either way it's clearly a 1 or 2 year setup at best.

Has he ever had a Job that 1. He left in a good postion? 2. some hugh crap storm did not happen right before he left? 3. came all of a sudden/surprise the hell out of a lot of people with the team? who didn't know what he was doing.


This will not end well, for anybody.

He might be the only person in the world, that I would wish would run in to a metal pipe, while on a Motorcycle going full speed.

Edited by Black Wolf Smith, 12 December 2012 - 12:59 AM.

[Switchback]

I don't guess I hold football coaches to any moral highgrounds, though Petrino has a record of leaving on the job, which without proper notice is dead-on shitty, but I honestly think UT (or hell, any SEC school looking for a coach) is going to regret passing him over.  Maybe he'll spend these next couple years rehabbing his image, and get back into the SEC regardless, but handing out jobs to mistresses aside, dude can coach.  I see WKU beating UT next year and a full on Chernobyl in the Knox County local press.

[MisterOJ]

Black Wolf Smith, on 12 December 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Has he ever had a Job that 1. He left in a good postion? 2. some hugh crap storm did not happen right before he left? 3. came all of a sudden/surprise the hell out of a lot of people with the team? who didn't know what he was doing.


This will not end well, for anybody.

He might be the only person in the world, that I would wish would run in to a metal pipe, while on a Motorcycle going full speed.

He did an awesome job at Louisville. Now, they made a terrible hire when they replaced him and that set the program back, but I don't know if you can blame Petrino for that.

[Rhom]

I think this article is the best breakdown on why stuff fell apart at Louisville that I've seen and also says alot about the reasons he has been successful.

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At the University of Louisville, Petrino left a stable of starters -- including 10 players on offense alone who would eventually be drafted into the NFL -- but the best they could do was a 6-6 record in the season after he left and worse in the two seasons after. At Arkansas, John L. Smith took a team with SEC championship aspirations under Petrino and, in the wake of a scandal that cost Petrino his job, is going to be lucky to keep the program above water.
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Under Petrino, something like a cell phone ringing in the offensive meeting room was a major infraction. If Paul Petrino heard a phone ring in one of his meetings, there was no telling what might happen. Forget confiscation, the phone would be lucky to survive, and the player might feel lucky to survive. In the first offensive meeting under Charlie Stubbs, Kragthorpe's new offensive coordinator, a phone rang, and players sat up in their seats, cringing almost reflexively. Stubbs stopped speaking, the phone rang once more before it could be silenced, there was an expectant moment of quiet, then he continued without acknowledging it.

It was a new day.

Even before that, the change was evident. The first time one position group showed up for some "voluntary" skeleton drills such as all teams run during the summer, they started to run the drills outlined on a sheet for them by the new coaches. About 15-20 minutes in, one player said to the other, "That's it." The others were confused. These were 45-minute or 1-hour drills under the predecessors. They'd gotten to the end of the list in a fraction of that time. They ran through the drills three more times, then stopped.

Wide receivers, accustomed to a precision attack in which coaches would literally measure out the steps that each player would run before cutting or making a move in his route, now were told, instead of how many steps, to go out seven yards and curl, or whatever the route was. The result was routes that wound up growing less precise.

The article as a whole is a fascinating look into how the personality of one person at head coach can make such a huge difference.

I agree that UT will regret passing over him.

[Ferrum Aeternum]

Rhom, on 12 December 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

I agree that UT will regret passing over him.

Butch Jones isn't chopped liver.  He's a proven winner, a program builder and outstanding recruiter with a ton of connections.  Petrino might have won more games there next year, but I think Jones will be better for that program in the long run.

[WrathOfTinyKittens]

Surprising no one, Texas Tech hires Kliff Kingsbury as head coach: http://usatoday.com/...le/news/1765293

Art Briles turned them down, but most seem to think it was a courtesy that he was offered. Most Tech fans have been hot after Kingsbury since the beginning.

A good hire. Kingsbury has the potential to be a great head coach. However, there are some questions about whether or not he has the experience to assemble a solid coaching staff. One also has to wonder how good TAMU's offense will be next year, given their likely losses on the o-line and the loss of Kingsbury.

[Mike]

Ferrum Aeternum, on 12 December 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Butch Jones isn't chopped liver.  He's a proven winner, a program builder and outstanding recruiter with a ton of connections.  Petrino might have won more games there next year, but I think Jones will be better for that program in the long run.

Butch Jones is a very good coach, IMHO, but he hasn't really built up any programs.  He inherited Central Michigan and Cincinnati from Brian Kelly.  He did a great job keeping those programs at a high level, but Kelly was the one who brought them up to that level.

[Ferrum Aeternum]

Mike, on 13 December 2012 - 06:38 AM, said:

Butch Jones is a very good coach, IMHO, but he hasn't really built up any programs.  He inherited Central Michigan and Cincinnati from Brian Kelly.  He did a great job keeping those programs at a high level, but Kelly was the one who brought them up to that level.

True, "program builder" was a stretch.  I guess now is his opportunity to try and do just that.

[Mike]

Ferrum Aeternum, on 13 December 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

True, "program builder" was a stretch.  I guess now is his opportunity to try and do just that.

Absolutely.  I think that he will do a good job at UT.

[Bronn Stone]

Not an impressive overall showing by Arizona, but an impressive comeback.  And a fun game to watch.

[Rhom]

Stoops is already making waves in recruiting circles at UK!

He inked his first signees today.  Picked up a 4 star JUCO DE from Mississippi and a highly regarded Tight End who is the son of WCW wrestler Sting.  The prospect of having Sting himself showing up at Commonwealth Stadium is enough to get me excited!  

[MisterOJ]

Rhom, on 19 December 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Stoops is already making waves in recruiting circles at UK!

He inked his first signees today.  Picked up a 4 star JUCO DE from Mississippi and a highly regarded Tight End who is the son of WCW wrestler Sting.  The prospect of having Sting himself showing up at Commonwealth Stadium is enough to get me excited!  

No kidding. There is all kinds of cool pregame videos that can be made now with the signing of Steve Borden.

[Bronn Stone]

Rhom, on 19 December 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Picked up a 4 star JUCO DE from Mississippi and a highly regarded Tight End who is the son of WCW wrestler Sting.  The prospect of having Sting himself showing up at Commonwealth Stadium is enough to get me excited!  

Gods....

We really are not the same country, are we???  I would be aghast at such a prospect.

[Rhom]

MisterOJ, on 19 December 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

No kidding. There is all kinds of cool pregame videos that can be made now with the signing of Steve Borden.

I'm just hoping the kid paints his face like The Crow under his helmet!