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#1 Distorted Humor

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:14 PM

Every time I read the book I have the same idea pop in my head.

Jaqen H'ghar = Syrio Forel

I know that its a stupid idea, and that most likely Syrio Forel pulled a Ducan Idaho and died letting Ayra excape. However it is how Syrio always called Syra "Boy" and Jaqen says the same thing to her, as if in both cases he knows she not really a boy, and H'ghar shows he
Spoiler

Edited by Distorted Humor, 05 December 2012 - 04:18 PM.


#2 Joe11093

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

The spoiler is from which book?

#3 lozeldatkm

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

The spoiler is from which book?

The end of CoK

I'll just say... thats actually somewhat of a cool theory. One I've never heard before. And best yet, I see no reason it can't be true...

Edited by lozeldatkm, 08 December 2012 - 11:00 AM.


#4 Quiet Isle

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

Unlikely. but it's been posited before. Love em both.

#5 Distorted Humor

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:37 AM

The spoiler is due to that that is revealed at the end of the book, and some folks might be reading it.

#6 Errant Bard

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

Don't call what you post dumb. Either it is dumb and you don't post it, or it's not and you actually stand by what you write, by damn.

Anyway, the theory is an old one, indeed (spoilers, heh).

Edited by Errant Bard, 09 December 2012 - 10:00 AM.


#7 Joe11093

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

I never though of this before. It's interesting though. I was looking forward to see where Arya is going to use Valar Morghulis... I'm almost 800 pages through book 3 so yeah ;p

#8 Cory

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:37 PM

I thought about that too, but it's too far fetched
Doubtless, they both say boy and have the same speech pattern as they are both bravossi

#9 Horza

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:29 AM

Jaqen is Lorathi, and his speech pattern 'A man watches television. A girl uploads cat gifs' is not similar to Syrio's.

#10 Not_All_Ravens_Are_Grim

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

I totally believe this, though with this theory in mind, we should wonder...why does Syrio/Jaqen have such an interest in helping Arya? He (assuming they are indeed the same person) trained her to fight, then put himself in a position to follow her North, and returned to Harrenhal to help her escape. Why?

#11 Woftis

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

I think we'd all like to believe this to be the case but it doesn't add up.

It's mentioned that Jaqen was in the cells while Ned was still hand (and Syrio was still around). As someone mentioned, there's been previous threads where the evidence has been produced.

#12 BlackBrother55

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:31 PM

This is either going to sound funny or dumb, but the reason I thought he called Arya 'boy' was because he was a pedophile.

#13 zmflavius

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:59 PM

No. No No No No No. Never.

#14 Sordelor

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:47 PM

No they're not the same, In affc, it was mentioned Eddard ordered that the 3 prisoners had to be brought to the night watch, so Jaquen was allready there before Eddard was inprisoned, and Syrio was attacked by Meryn Trant a couple minutes after Eddard was captured, so the're not the same person.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

Jaqen is Lorathi, and his speech pattern 'A man watches television. A girl uploads cat gifs' is not similar to Syrio's.

A man cannot change his speech pattern?



#16 Horza

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:54 AM

A man cannot change his speech pattern?

 

It's not evidence one way or the other. 



#17 Bahlrokhin

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:43 PM

 

It's not evidence one way or the other. 

Indeed it isn't.



#18 Hodor of House Hodor

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:49 PM

No they're not the same, In affc, it was mentioned Eddard ordered that the 3 prisoners had to be brought to the night watch, so Jaquen was allready there before Eddard was inprisoned, and Syrio was attacked by Meryn Trant a couple minutes after Eddard was captured, so the're not the same person.

 

Unless the REAL Jaqen was in the prisons already and the one we know as Jaqen assumed his identity after Ned was imprisoned and Syrio vanished from our pages...



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:52 PM

I never though of this before. It's interesting though. I was looking forward to see where Arya is going to use Valar Morghulis... I'm almost 800 pages through book 3 so yeah ;p

 

assuming she uses it.  :P



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:14 PM

 

Unless the REAL Jaqen was in the prisons already and the one we know as Jaqen assumed his identity after Ned was imprisoned and Syrio vanished from our pages...

Duuuuuude