How to enjoy a book after "spoilers"?
Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:36 AM
"It's too bad she will die at the end"
"what???? she will die!! Why did you tell me that!! I hate you now for telling me that"
Although, I always try to avoid discussing a book with someone before finishing it, it is kind of hard for me to resist the temptation of watching the movie version or the series version of books before actually reading them.
Sometimes, that might be a terrible thing to do, and I end up not being able to read the book, but other times, like it is the case with A song of Ice and Fire, the books seem to good to be forsaken even after having watched two seasons of the series.
I wanted to start this thread so that we can all share some of the "techniques" that we use in order to still enjoy the book even when we know already what will happened. I have to admit that this might be somewhat challenging but it's worth the shot!
I would like to invite you to read this wonderful article, it says more than what I could say.
I also wanted to ask you to please share your experience with spoilers and how you managed or failed to deal with them in general, and specifically when it comes to A song of Ice and Fire.
Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:52 PM
Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:27 PM
Posted 08 December 2012 - 02:02 AM
Thank you guys for your answers, I think you are totally right about that.
I think series/ movies depict books according to the production team's perception of the book, and since no representation is totally faithful to the original version, I think we can always try to imagine characters, places, etc... differently than the ones that we were presented with in the series.
Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:48 AM
Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:55 AM
Thanks! You're right!
Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:40 AM
Generally, though, I try to avoid spoilers (and fail miserably at it), or if I read them try to forget them (which I'm slightly better at, but they come back as that niggling voice in the back of my head that says, "Wait, didn't you read about that?").
Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:55 AM
I do have to say though, I have strong sense of curiosity and that has also led to spoilers, so I spoil it for myself as well. Plus also having seen the TV series first before I read either GoT or CoK, so I knew what was coming both books, (although there's some plot points/deaths which I had no knowledge of, so I was generaly surprised on occasion).
I do try and avoid spoilers now (not too much success), but even if I do see a spoiler I just carry on with it because at the end of the day, it's still not the end of the story and by the time WoW comes out I'd be on a par with everyone who has read up to and including DwD. Also I like the story and as I say at times it does bring out the occasional death/plot point that I wasn't expecting.
Edited by Angalin, 26 December 2012 - 11:47 AM.
because in a Still Reading thread, you use spoiler tags, people
Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:04 AM
I've been spoiled about the beheading, but i managed to forget that enough to be surprised when i read it.
Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:26 AM
The only book I didn't read mostly spoiled is ADWD. That's fine. They are still best books of all times to me, and I've read GoT at least 10 times by now.
Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:43 AM
Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:14 PM
Edited by PrinceRobotIV, 09 April 2013 - 11:15 PM.
Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:11 PM
That said, these books are not only about plot twists.There is an atmosphere, wit, and beauty in prose that is positively unmatched in any other fantasy series I've ever read. So you have that. And the books are so dense that you will find yourself getting caught up in the moment and forgetting things you already knew. And even in those spoiled moments, you'll feel the same sense of loss or wicked joy everyone felt when reading it. You just won't be shocked. At least in terms of deaths. Character deaths actually make up only a small percentage of plot twists and surprises that await ASoIaF readers. Chances are, all the political intrigue and allegiances both true and false are still a mystery to you, so take heart in that.
My advice to people who have suffered spoilers and don't want to suffer any more is to stay away from social media sites related to the book or television series. Don't talk to people who have read further ahead than you unless you have an explicit agreement to say nothing about what happens later. ESPECIALLY stay away from Youtube, where idiotic posters use the comments sections of BTS videos and music tributes as an excuse to intentionally spoil major moments in the books. They get a kick out of it.
I am committing to a similar social media blackout as it pertains to The Walking Dead. I have not read the comics, so I don't know who dies or who doesn't. Therefore, I stay away from just about every article related to the show, since they are wont to point out where the show departs from the books, even though these departures are usually small and the comic plot point is eventually played out on screen (think Shane, for fans of the show). It may not be EVERYTHING to be surprised, but it's still an enjoyable aspect of books and shows, so avoid them at all cost.
Edited by Wankerfell, 17 April 2013 - 04:13 PM.
Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:17 PM
And always remember “It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.”
Edited by Lord Duncan, 04 May 2013 - 11:17 PM.
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:41 PM
Looking for foreshadowing is half the fun.
Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:05 AM
Ohhh I love that as well. Sometimes I re-read just to catch some foreshadowing and hints.
Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:19 AM
Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:46 AM
I think it's due to the richness of each character's distinctive POV combined with an omniscient narrative presence--kind of a unique way to tell a story. Sort of character-specific but not to the point where it's hard to balance voices.
The description is also rich enough while still very direct, which lends itself to a nice amount of individual interpretation, for me!
Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:33 AM